I'm in favor of a complete overhaul of our government and our lawmakers with comments like these. Just adding fuel to the fire. We elect these congressman to lookout for the people's interest and they are clearly not doing that. Sure, it might be a ridiculously long bill but I expect him to read it and analyze so it so as to find out what effect it will have on the common person of our country. He is being paid well enough to do that.

 

If the people running over government continue to follow the path they are currently following and ignore the interests of their people, we will have another revolution on our hands. Whether or not it is in my lifetime, I firmly believe that.

When our congressmen are too busy to actually read the bills they are voting into law... especially laws that will forever alter the economics of 1/7th of the US economy, I say it's time to cut them loose from such mundane duties and let them pursue a full time career courting cameras, kissing butt and chasing personal gain.

 

It's time for severe term limits, and the election of citizens actually willing to "serve" their constituents... not career power addicts.

Do you really think that this President and EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT does not have their hand in bills written at Congress that is coming from their party as well as some influence on the bill coming from the other party that they are supportive?

 

Separation of powers is irrelevant in today's political world of bills getting written.

 

Back at budget and stimulus time, didn't O put his two cents in about pork being added to the bills?

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Ace? :popcorn:

When our congressmen are too busy to actually read the bills they are voting into law... especially laws that will forever alter the economics of 1/7th of the US economy, I say it's time to cut them loose from such mundane duties and let them pursue a full time career courting cameras, kissing butt and chasing personal gain.

 

It's time for severe term limits, and the election of citizens actually willing to "serve" their constituents... not career power addicts.

 

Let me ask you this, Hearsay. Do you believe most congress folks read every word of every law they vote on?

 

Do you think its possible to read a 2,000 page law and comprehend all of its implications?

Let me ask you this, Hearsay. Do you believe most congress folks read every word of every law they vote on?

 

Do you think its possible to read a 2,000 page law and comprehend all of its implications?

 

I expect them to lookout for the people's best interest as they were elected to do just that. So in short, yes I expect them to read this bill as that is why they were put into this position to begin with. They are paid well enough through my tax dollars to do it and live a comfortable life throughout the rest of their years.

 

(I know this question wasn't directed at me but just thought I'd chime in)

I expect them to lookout for the people's best interest as they were elected to do just that. So in short, yes I expect them to read this bill as that is why they were put into this position to begin with. They are paid well enough through my tax dollars to do it and live a comfortable life throughout the rest of their years.

 

(I know this question wasn't directed at me but just thought I'd chime in)

 

So you think you could read a 2000 page bill filled with "legal-ese" and be able to digest it well enough to make an informed decision?

So you think you could read a 2000 page bill filled with "legal-ese" and be able to digest it well enough to make an informed decision?

 

 

Someone on their staff should help them.....they have one job and its to represent the people.....how many days so they actually work?

Do you really think that this President and EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT does not have their hand in bills written at Congress that is coming from their party as well as some influence on the bill coming from the other party that they are supportive?

 

Separation of powers is irrelevant in today's political world of bills getting written.

 

Back at budget and stimulus time, didn't O put his two cents in about pork being added to the bills?

 

Whether he has historically or others have historically is not really relevant to this particluar discussion. Do you not recall people complaining that he was not forceful enough in telling congress what he wants. That he did not push for the public option enough, or some option. It has been well documented by most media that he was laissez faire with this particular bill.

Someone on their staff should help them.....they have one job and its to represent the people.....how many days so they actually work?

 

That's what I said previously. Its not realistic to expect Mitch McConnell to sit down and read 2000 pages. How long would that take? How much can he actually comprehend?

 

So when a rep says they haven't read it fully I don't have a problem with it. If they then said "no one on my staff has read any of it and neither have I" then I've got a problem.

 

We're looking for things to complain about.

I think 2000 page bills should be outlawed.

I think 2000 page bills should be outlawed.

 

I think Conyers would agree with you and essentially said as much.

Someone on their staff should help them.....they have one job and its to represent the people.....how many days so they actually work?

 

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When our congressmen are too busy to actually read the bills they are voting into law... especially laws that will forever alter the economics of 1/7th of the US economy, I say it's time to cut them loose from such mundane duties and let them pursue a full time career courting cameras, kissing butt and chasing personal gain.

 

It's time for severe term limits, and the election of citizens actually willing to "serve" their constituents... not career power addicts.

Don't we as voters already have the power to enforce term limits?

So you think you could read a 2000 page bill filled with "legal-ese" and be able to digest it well enough to make an informed decision?

 

But you want them to make an uninformed vote by not reading it?

They should then wait to vote on the bill, so they have time to read it. This too big a decision to jam it down everyones throat.

Edited November 3, 200916 yr by bballfamily
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Don't we as voters already have the power to enforce term limits?

Technically yes.

 

I do not believe our founding fathers ever intended public service via elected office to become a full time career with pay that places every congress person in the top 5% of all income earners in the country, full benefits and a retirement plan rivaling those for officers of Fortune 500 companies.

 

Anyone with the ability to vote themselves raises and benefits at the expense of their bosses is eventually going to abuse the priviledge.

 

Too many individuals have been able to consolodate power within their districts to the point of becoming unmovable objects.

 

These people have become more concerned with keeping their grip on power, a cushy paycheck and the ego gratification of a slobbering media, than in doing what is right.