Farley was out due to injury. One play hurt The rams tonight and it was just bad luck. Raceland player catches a screen turns inside, takes a big hit bends down takes another, he breaks both those tackles and keeps running and not a Fleming defender within 15 yards. But the Raceland players helmet came off in the hit so they stopped the play. Not saying it wouldve changed the game. But we did lose 6 points due to it.

 

Those refs obviously don't know how hard headed Raceland people are or they would had alowed it :taz:. Oh wait! That's probably just us old guys .

 

Guys, I have try and find some humor....I am really burning inside. I hate to lose but when you get beat all you can do is give congrats to your opponet and look toward next week.

 

GO RAMS!!! You will have a very fired up GCHS team coming off a huge win for them to come in Ram Stadium for your season home opener next week. I don't think I have to tell you that there is no time to sit around and feel sorry for yourselves. Get your heads up, a new season starts next week.

Any stats from this one.

Congrats to Coach Peterson and FC

Flemings D really stepped up in this game. Congratz to both teams.

Both teams have work to do, but I was impressed with what I saw tonight. Fleming did what it took to win tonight. Raceland couldn't finish the deal. Very fun game to watch. Fleming is going to have to get that offense rolling because not every game can be won in the last minute, but what a way to finish. What a pretty pass/catch on the trick play late in the game. Fleming has Rowan next week. Goodluck to Raceland against GCHS.

Edited September 5, 200917 yr by Ram
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Great win good luck next week.

Congratulations to Fleming County, they were the better team, and deserved to win this game. Great coaching and great effort by the entire Fleming County Team.

Haha that may be true. They obviously didn't forget to stretch their legs though. There were some fast guys in that secondary! I believe number 23 was one of them. Very quick athlete.

 

Is #23 Gray for FC?

I believe that #23 is Dugan. Gray is #24. They are both crazy athletic. Gray is all over the field on defense. I like the way the Panthers are headed but we need to find a way to get those two the ball more often. Congrats to the Panthers and good luck to the Rams the rest of the way.

I agree with you snapper. Gray and Dugan are exciting to watch with the ball in their hands. Congrats to the Panthers.

Any stats from this one.

 

http://www.maysville-online.com/articles/2009/09/05/sports/doc4aa1df80e77f1039401420.txt

 

http://www.dailyindependent.com/localsports/local_story_248003848.html?keyword=secondarystory

Disclaimer: First I want to say that Fleming County deserved to win this game, and did. Raceland did not deserve to win this game and didn't. No outside factor will change my mind on these facts. And nothing I say after this is meant to say that Raceland lost because of the officiating.

 

Ram climbs on his soapbox.

 

This is the only officiating crew that I have ever complained about on BGP. Raceland has had this crew twice before, and after the third time last night, they are still the worst officiating crew to ever step foot on a football field. This crew should never be allowed to officiate a JFL game, let a lone a varsity game. In the two previous games that they have officated a Raceland game, Raceland won both by large margins, so don't think I am only complaining because Raceland lost this game. And, I have a feeling if you asked the Fleming County coaching staff their opinion, they would overwhelming agree with me on all these facts. So, this is not sour grapes. This crew is terrible, and if this was a district game, or a playoff game, they could have easily decided the outcome of this game.

 

One example of their ineptitude: Raceland QB throws a pass from Raceland endzone, while under pressure, the pass almost hits a RB in the foot, down field out of the end zone. Safety is called (intentional grounding). Two points are credited to Fleming County. Both teams line up for Fleming County to receive a Free Kick. The official then singles that Fleming County was assessed a facemask penalty on the "Safety" play, then begin to assess that penalty on the Free Kick. Now, most would know if the defense is assessed a penalty, on the same play as the offense is assessed a penelety, the penalties offset and you have to replay the last down. Well, that is what the officials figured out, right before Raceland kicked the free kick, and had the two points taken off of the board and replayed the last down.

 

Fleming County's coach was livid, and I don't blame him, the facemask was never mentioned until both teams were lined up for a free kick.

 

Now, this doesn't account for a no call on a pass interference on Fleming County in another play, that the official said it was not called because the pass was "Uncatchable". Uncatchable? Most people that know anything about high school football, knows that their is not such thing as "Uncatchable" in high school football. Pass interference, in pass interference, no matter if the pass is uncatchable or not.

 

This does not account for the fact the ball was spotted incorrectly multiple times, for both teams. You never knew where the ball was going to be spotted. Even the PA ancouncer would say, "tackled for a loss", then have to come back and say, "No, that was a three yard gain". Now, the PA guy is not the official spotter, but everyone could see when a player was tackled behind the line, obviously for a loss, then the ball is spotted for a three yard gain. And, sometimes, for both teams, a player would fall forward for an obvious one or two yard gain, and the spot would be for a loss. Then the PA guy would come back across and say "no that was a one yard loss".

 

Again, this does not account for the four of five times that a penalty flag was thrown and a penalty was stepped off and no signal was given and the coaches had to walk out on the field and ask what was called. Or the one penalty that was marked off at seven yards in the middle of the field. What penalty is worth seven yards?

 

And on numerous occasions there were official conferences in the middle of the field that seemed like they were ten minutes long after a flag was thrown. I know that sometimes officials have to confer on a call, but how many games have you seen where they have to do it eight times in one game.

 

One Fleming County fan said, that that crew was not supposed to be allowed to call games at Fleming County anymore, so this is not just a Raceland fan going off about a loss and blaming the officials, this is a real concern. Several Horse Collar tackles were not called, one on Raceland, two on Fleming County. Several Facemask calls were not called, that were obvious, head turned, two on Fleming County. This is a safety issue. This crew should not be able to call high school football games. They are not capable, pure and simple.

 

Ram steps off of his soapbox.

 

Ram has one foot on soapbox.

 

And before someone says, "We are taking applications for officials, if you would like to help out". Please.................

 

Ram now has both feet firmly on the ground, and no soapbox in sight.

I agree 100% Ram. Another play that still stands in my mind, was the botched punt. When Rister decided to throw instead of just kick the ball. The ball was on the way to the Raceland player but he was decleated and knocked out of bounds on the sideline before the ball even made it there. Those horse collar calls not bieng made was ridiculous as well. I also like the 8, 13 yard penalties they were giving out there .

 

And as Ram stated i'm in no way taking anything away from Fleming Co. Because they flat out just wanted this game more than Raceland did. And they came away with the W.

 

When was the other two times we had them Ram? Fairview and maybe Paris?

When was the other two times we had them Ram? Fairview and maybe Paris?

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. Everyone knows the games that we had these officials, they kind of stand out in you mind.

Ram, that was a good post you placed on the refs. I know that you were not crying sour grapes or anything like that. Like you, I don't go off on that stuff. I wasn't there but I do trust opinions as you have stated that came from both sides. Mcpapa even made a comment leaning toward this in the update thread.

Officials do a very good job and are for the most part and are usually under appreciated. Having said that, imo officials like the ones you just described need to be exposed and kicked out of officiating. As soon as you mentioned the Paris and Fairview games I instantly knew which crew it was. "The Bad News Zebras" of Kentucky officials. I hope the KHSAA can get guys lke this out, they ruin a good name that most Ky. Officials have.

 

Having said all of that and not personally being at the game I will say that I could tell by the very good updates RF04 was giving that one thing was clear.......Fleming County made the plays the had to make to win........Raceland didn't....... Fleming stepped up, Raceland didn't. End of Story!

Congrats again to Fleming County on the well deserved win.