Wireman Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 Well, that didn't take long... I was listening to an Eagle's guy talking on Mike & Mike this morning and he said there is already a QB controversy in Philly. Vick was supposed to play 15 or so plays last night, but McNabb was seen on the sidelines giving a "throat slash" to the offensive coordinator. Vick was then pulled from the game. McNabb spent the postgame talking about how the Eagles had no rhythm, etc. This will be interesting to keep an eye on...
gchs_uk9 Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 I gotta say, even though I tend to agree with him on this, it seems like it's always something with Donovan McNabb.
Wireman Posted August 28, 2009 Author Posted August 28, 2009 I gotta say, even though I tend to agree with him on this, it seems like it's always something with Donovan McNabb. Even if he's correct, he can't be giving a throat slash sign on the sidelines. Sometimes, Donovan just doesn't think.
gchs_uk9 Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 Even if he's correct, he can't be giving a throat slash sign on the sidelines. Sometimes, Donovan just doesn't think. Agreed 100%. I just meant I agreed with his thoughts on being out of rhythm, etc. Throat-slash is always inappropriate in sports.
dolamite Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 What will make it even more of a contoversy is that Vick actually played well. I think this all dies down though because other than the last pre-season game, Vick likely will not get to play in a regular game until at least week 4. McNabb has never played that much in the pre-season anyway so I don't see why he is crying about it now, especially after he was one of the guys who was behind the decision to bring Vick in. The wild card in this is if McNabb isn't playing that well in the weeks prior to Vick being fully reinstated, then their maybe something brewing. Until that happens though, I doubt anything will really happen as far as a QB battle in Phili. The Eagles were just trying to get Vick as much practice as they could last night, being that he needed it being away from the game for two plus years. Which brings me to my next thought. I never really understood the decision on Vicks part to go to the Eagles, especially for the two years he signed. The guy was a franchise QB before he left, and although gone for a couple of years, I think last night showed that after the rust is off he can still be that franchise QB. I mean a lot of guys at that position have missed time and came back, normally its from injury though. IMO, Vick's situation is not too much different than say that of what has happened to Brady or Palmer over the last couple of years. The extra year off, I think equals out to having to have your entire knee reconstructed IMO. If these guys are missing a year and coming back, only with a bad knee, I think Vick can come back when injury isn't even a factor. For some reason I just assumed he would try to break back into the league in San Fran, Minnesotta (they have Favre now), Tampa Bay, or one of those type teams in which he could just shake the rust off and have a chance to earn a starting role. If I'm not mistaken SF, Tampa Bay, and Minnesotta all run the same type of west coast system Vick was used to running in Atlanta. But oh well, I guess we'll see how it all turns out.
dolamite Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 I gotta say, even though I tend to agree with him on this, it seems like it's always something with Donovan McNabb. As much as I try to like McNabb, and as much as I still like him (being I force myself to) he is one of the biggest cry babies in sports. If it wasn't for him, the TO situation would have never blew up the way it did in Phili. There have been a lot of guys in the Eagles locker room that have even said that.
Wireman Posted August 28, 2009 Author Posted August 28, 2009 I think Vick is a terrible fit for the Eagles style and especially with their current lineup. It was McNabb's idea and push that landed Vick in Philly - another dumb decision by Donovan. Vick would have been a much better fit at a team that struggles at QB and runs a similar offense to what Vick is accustomed too.
5wide Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 I think Vick is a terrible fit for the Eagles style and especially with their current lineup. It was McNabb's idea and push that landed Vick in Philly - another dumb decision by Donovan. Vick would have been a much better fit at a team that struggles at QB and runs a similar offense to what Vick is accustomed too. Didn't Atlanta run a west-coast offense when Vick was there? Wouldn't Philly be about as similar as anyone...except perhaps Seattle?
Wireman Posted August 28, 2009 Author Posted August 28, 2009 Didn't Atlanta run a west-coast offense when Vick was there? Wouldn't Philly be about as similar as anyone...except perhaps Seattle? If he were the starting QB, they might be similar. They are trying to implement a "Slash" package for Vick, which totally screws up their offensive rhythm. They are running plays with 2 QBs on the field at the same time, etc.
westsider Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 There is no quarterback controversy in Philly ... McNabb is a better quarterback than Vick and always has been.
bugatti Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 As much as I try to like McNabb, and as much as I still like him (being I force myself to) he is one of the biggest cry babies in sports. If it wasn't for him, the TO situation would have never blew up the way it did in Phili. There have been a lot of guys in the Eagles locker room that have even said that.Or the T.O. situation would have never blown up if it were not for T.O. I am not saying Donovan is not somewhat at fault for that fiasco, but there is a reason Terrell is now on his 4 team in 6 years despite being very productive and now having to play on one year contracts. The media is definitely looking for a controversy in all of this, and maybe there is one. But I would like to know the full extent of the sideline transgressions and "throat slash" before I pass a whole lot of judgment on the situation.
5wide Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 Or the T.O. situation would have never blown up if it were not for T.O. I am not saying Donovan is not somewhat at fault for that fiasco, but there is a reason Terrell is now on his 4 team in 6 years despite being very productive and now having to play on one year contracts. The media is definitely looking for a controversy in all of this, and maybe there is one. But I would like to know the full extent of the sideline transgressions and "throat slash" before I pass a whole lot of judgment on the situation. :thumb: I think it's a little early to jump to conclusions.
5wide Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 If he were the starting QB, they might be similar. They are trying to implement a "Slash" package for Vick, which totally screws up their offensive rhythm. They are running plays with 2 QBs on the field at the same time, etc. Obviously, it's going to take some time and work to get the package installed to a point where it is smooth and effective. That's in addition to Vick getting back into the groove after being in prison and out of football for a couple of years. The Eagles are eyeing a Super Bowl, so I suspect they're more concerned with getting the kinks lined out for December and January rather than September. This sounds like more media hysteria...they're looking for any hint of a conflict or problem with Vick being in Philly, so they're going to pounce at every opportunity. I doubt this will be the only story like this.
TrueBlueWildcat Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 I noticed after watching the highlights on ESPN this morning that it looked as if McNabb was mouthing off to Vick on the sidelines as he was walking away, Vick just stood there looking at him. I'd almost guarantee that there is something brewing because Vick didn't seem to far lost in the game and with a few more weeks, could be a decent QB.
bugatti Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 I noticed after watching the highlights on ESPN this morning that it looked as if McNabb was mouthing off to Vick on the sidelines as he was walking away, Vick just stood there looking at him. I'd almost guarantee that there is something brewing because Vick didn't seem to far lost in the game and with a few more weeks, could be a decent QB. Maybe you are correct, but I still think we are trying to read too much in to a few snippets from the sidelines. Knowing the microscope they were under and Donovan's media consciousness, I have a hard time believing McNabb was being confrontational.
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