August 12, 200917 yr Like a girl. Has to throw his helmet at a defenseless pitcher AND gets taken down by said pitcher, after he bear hugs him. Youk's a hot head, always has been, always will be. You left out the part where there were beanballs exchanged last night when both Cabrera and Youkilis were both hit. Tonight Cabrera was hit again and after Porcello tried, and failed to hit Martinez he then hit Youkilis for the second time squarely in the back. And the fact that the pitcher had backed up almost to the infield grass before Youkilis was able to catch him. No matter, the Sox took care of it on the scoreboard 7-5.
August 12, 200917 yr Like a girl. Has to throw his helmet at a defenseless pitcher AND gets taken down by said pitcher, after he bear hugs him. Youk's a hot head, always has been, always will be. Seeing how he's been in Boston a while, it might be "Roid Rage". Good thing he didn't charge a guy like Nolan Ryan or he would have taken a worse beating than Robin Ventura did. Sorry Avg-Joe, couldn't resist this thread
August 12, 200917 yr I've always felt like a pitcher is fair game for anything if we is intentionally throwing at a batter. His weapon is a ball 90+miles an hour so mine would be my bat and helmet. Not politically correct but I bet people don't throw at me. With that being said Youk looked pretty soft and the pitcher needs to learn to throw his glove off. Nobody like Nolan Ryan and the frog! Classic! I remember at the time it happened he was older than my dad!
August 12, 200917 yr I thought the 1st baseman's attempt at stopping Youk was funny. He came in like a girl too. He could've nailed Youk, but he let up and whiffed. As a 1st and 3rd baseman, you're always told to beat the batter to the mound. The pitcher back-peddled and neither got there in time.
August 12, 200917 yr Author You left out the part where there were beanballs exchanged last night when both Cabrera and Youkilis were both hit. Tonight Cabrera was hit again and after Porcello tried, and failed to hit Martinez he then hit Youkilis for the second time squarely in the back. And the fact that the pitcher had backed up almost to the infield grass before Youkilis was able to catch him. No matter, the Sox took care of it on the scoreboard 7-5. What does that have to do with the fact that Youk charged the mound AND threw his helmet at a defenseless pitcher? Okay, so the pitcher backed up. Then, he slammed Youk's punk behind on the ground like a rag doll. Cabrera was hit twice and he didn't charge. Youk's a hot head. Plain and simple.
August 12, 200917 yr Author I thought the 1st baseman's attempt at stopping Youk was funny. He came in like a girl too. He could've nailed Youk, but he let up and whiffed. As a 1st and 3rd baseman, you're always told to beat the batter to the mound. The pitcher back-peddled and neither got there in time. I think Kruk is right. The pitcher ran to the wrong side. He had a young 1st basemam who wanted no part of it. He definitely should've been retreating to Inge's side of the field.
August 12, 200917 yr What does that have to do with the fact that Youk charged the mound AND threw his helmet at a defenseless pitcher? Okay, so the pitcher backed up. Then, he slammed Youk's punk behind on the ground like a rag doll. Cabrera was hit twice and he didn't charge. Youk's a hot head. Plain and simple. Cabrera didn't charge because he was injured and had to leave the game. A defenseless pitcher? Give me a break--it was a batting helmet. The pitcher threw a 90+ mph pitch at him first and was obviously trying to hit him on purpose. He'd already had his chance to pay the Sox back by throwing at Martinez and missed. It should have been even after that.
August 12, 200917 yr This "fight" was a poor effort all the way around. First, the pitcher was scared to death and ran backwards. To complicate things, he ran to the wrong side and went away from his dugout. Then, the first baseman looked like a bull fighter waving Youkilis on by. Youkilis made the decision to charge the mound, which is fine. The bad part is that he takes his helmet off and throws it at the pitcher. Then, to add insult to injury, he gets tackled by a young pitcher and ends up on the bottom of the pile. Poor effort.
August 12, 200917 yr Author Cabrera didn't charge because he was injured and had to leave the game. A defenseless pitcher? Give me a break--it was a batting helmet. The pitcher threw a 90+ mph pitch at him first and was obviously trying to hit him on purpose. He'd already had his chance to pay the Sox back by throwing at Martinez and missed. It should have been even after that. Cabrera stayed in the game at first. That had zero to do with him not charging the mound. Youk got hit in the back. Not the hands twice like Cabrera, which is close to his face. The back. Purpose pitch, absolutely. It was not at your head. Take it like a man and take your base. Yes, defenseless pitcher. He was facing Youk, who wasn't more than 20 feet away and chucked a helmet at him WHILE he was charging him. Doesn't change the fact that Youk always has been and always will be a hot head. If Red Sox fan wants to justify that, so be it. But the guys had plenty of fights with teammates because of it.
August 12, 200917 yr When you throw a 90 MPH heater at someone intentionally, you can't use the "defenseless pitcher" excuse. Throwing the helmet was weak but him going down was not that big of a deal since all the pitcher did , besides run backwards, was use Youk's momentum to take him down. I applaud him for charging. If the Tigers want to use the Sox as target practice someone has to sack up and make a statement.
August 12, 200917 yr How is throwing the helmet weak or shameful when you just got a rock solid baseball put in the back of your neck at 90 MPH?
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