I've said for years that if the KHSAA wants to put a stop to "recruiting" all they have to do is put a couple (or whatever number is deemed proper) of full-time, WELL TRAINED investigators on their payroll to check out every PROPERLY TURNED IN & VALIDATED report of supposed recruiting by a school, whether it be private or public. That would be the ONLY job performed by those folks, and their salaries and expenses would seem to be chump change compared to if the KHSAA were hit by a multi-million dollar judgement against them for a lawsuit. If all of the "recruiting" goes on that people claim goes on, it would seem that the investigators would have plenty to keep them busy.

 

This is a great idea. The way complaints are investigated now is totally incompetent. How many times do they need to be overturned by courts to understand the current method just doesn't work?

Need based scholarships don't apply to the rule, only academic from what the article stated.

This is a great idea. The way complaints are investigated now is totally incompetent. How many times do they need to be overturned by courts to understand the current method just doesn't work?[/QUOTE]

 

 

Just how many times have the courts, in final decisions, over turned the KHSAA in the last 10 years?

 

And please enlighten us as to how complaints are currently investigated.

 

Now on to the issue at hand. For the private school supporters, you need to know that the 25% limitation on MERIT aid was agreed to by the private school people on the KHSAA public private task force a couple of years ago. From what I remember being told by someone close to the task force, the private school folks were more than fine with the 25% number because the private schools don't give any where near 25% of the tuition in merit based financial aid.

 

The private schools are still able to give need based, in addition to the merit based, financial aid in an amount determined by an independent agency. There is no limit on the amount of need based financial aid a student can receive, other than it can't exceed the amount of tuition of course (less any merit based aid received).

 

If you heard something different than the above from a news report or in a newspaper, they got it wrong.

 

Bottom line is that the representatives on the task force whom were selected by the private schools were fine with the limitation and agreed to it in an attempt to compromise on some issues. If the suit is successful (which in my opinion it will not), and the rule gets thrown out, the relative peace and quiet we've experienced in this forum will be a thing of the past.

Edited July 24, 200917 yr by leatherneck

What constitutes merit based aid? Who sets the standards the individual school?

 

What if the standards are not hard to achieve? Then a lot of students would qualify. Then they could give it to those that they would like to attend. I.E. recruit with lowered tuition or no tuition at all.

 

I know that at some schools the work study programs are handed out however the school seems fit. Which means they get to pick and choose who receives the aid.

 

I believe there is a limitation in the KHSAA by laws that not more than 5% of the students can receive merit based aid to prevent just what you are "proposing". There are also some requirements about how the merit aid can be handed out. Check out the by laws, I think it's either by law 25 or 27. They are on the web at the KHSAA's site.

I believe there is a limitation in the KHSAA by laws that not more than 5% of the students can receive merit based aid to prevent just what you are "proposing". There are also some requirements about how the merit aid can be handed out. Check out the by laws, I think it's either by law 25 or 27. They are on the web at the KHSAA's site.

 

 

Bylaw 13:Financial Aid

 

Yes, there are limitations and the 5% is designed to prevent it from occurring.

 

It can still be handed out subjectively as long as all the students took the same test, on a specific date, and met the "criteria" of merit.

I just have to ask this question and I don't won't anyone to get upset, but is Louisville the only city having problems with the public/private thing?

I just have to ask this question and I don't won't anyone to get upset, but is Louisville the only city having problems with the public/private thing?

And Lexington.

I don't think that anyone should have to turn down an academic scholarship so that they can play sports without a bunch of innuendos thrown at them . It's insulting .

Yes, it is what they said. It said she was going to have to choose between volleyball or education and that is not correct. She had three choices and chose to eliminate one of them. That is fine and I commend her on that.

 

But to say she can't go to school and play volleyball is inaccurate. She could and chose not to.

 

Is that at all similar to the fact that some people choose to live in a rural setting, which may limit opportunities ?

I have a few questions I want to make sure I am clear on;

 

1. The KHSAA is the governing body over high school sports?

 

2. In order to be a member of the KHSAA you have to agree to their set of Bylaws and pay a membership fee?

 

3. There are board members on the KHSAA board from private and public schools?

 

4. Every member school has one vote on rule changes?

 

5. They changed the rule to 25% makes you unable to play?

 

6. The family is upset because their child can not play high school sports because they receive scholarship money?

 

7. Attending private school is a choice of this family?

 

8. They can give the money up and their child can play?

 

Okay Now unless I have mis-read some of the article, some of the post in this thread, and the bylaws of the KHSAA. the answer to these 8 questions is all YES.

 

So if I look at these questions the parents need to blame themselves for their child not playing. See the world is about choices.

 

They choose to attend a private school.

They choose to accept money to attend school.

 

So if you want to play you need to make the right CHOICE and pay your own way. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Are Fort Campbell and Fort Knox considered to be private schools?

Are Fort Campbell and Fort Knox considered to be private schools?

 

No they are not.

Bylaw 13:Financial Aid

 

Yes, there are limitations and the 5% is designed to prevent it from occurring.

 

It can still be handed out subjectively as long as all the students took the same test, on a specific date, and met the "criteria" of merit.

 

Thanks for the correction on the by law number. The fact that it can be handed out subjectively as you say is all the more reason to have a limit on the maximum amount permitted. Agreed?

Thanks for the correction on the by law number. The fact that it can be handed out subjectively as you say is all the more reason to have a limit on the maximum amount permitted. Agreed?

 

 

 

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This is a great idea. The way complaints are investigated now is totally incompetent. How many times do they need to be overturned by courts to understand the current method just doesn't work?[/QUOTE]

 

 

Just how many times have the courts, in final decisions, over turned the KHSAA in the last 10 years?

 

The one that jumps out at me right now is Euton.