July 18, 200917 yr It's Not An Option It didn't take long to run into an "uh-oh" moment when reading the House's "health care for all Americans" bill. Right there on Page 16 is a provision making individual private medical insurance illegal. When we first saw the paragraph Tuesday, just after the 1,018-page document was released, we thought we surely must be misreading it. So we sought help from the House Ways and Means Committee. It turns out we were right: The provision would indeed outlaw individual private coverage. Under the Orwellian header of "Protecting The Choice To Keep Current Coverage," the "Limitation On New Enrollment" section of the bill clearly states: "Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day" of the year the legislation becomes law. So we can all keep our coverage, just as promised — with, of course, exceptions: Those who currently have private individual coverage won't be able to change it. Nor will those who leave a company to work for themselves be free to buy individual plans from private carriers.
July 19, 200917 yr Glad you found this and posted it. I wonder what all of the BHO apologist will say about this bill. Even if they support some sort of national health care plan, surely they would still think that Americans should have a choice to enroll privately if they wanted to. CHANGE you can believe in :puke: Might not believe it, but your going to have to live with it:ohbrother:
July 19, 200917 yr Here's a link to the quoted article. http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=482329
July 19, 200917 yr From my understanding of the bill's language, private insurance will be subject to certain federal standards for coverage. Page 16 reads that these standards will be grandfathered in so that one may keep their current coverage, assuming it doesn't meet the federal standards, while all new coverage will need to meet federal standards. It doesn't make private insurance illegal.
July 20, 200917 yr No, that amendment was added by the Republicans but it was voted down by the Dem majority.
July 20, 200917 yr From my understanding of the bill's language, private insurance will be subject to certain federal standards for coverage. Page 16 reads that these standards will be grandfathered in so that one may keep their current coverage, assuming it doesn't meet the federal standards, while all new coverage will need to meet federal standards. It doesn't make private insurance illegal. I'll bet the farm the standards will not have to be met by the government program and the standards set for the private companies will be so extreme, they will be so expensive, they will be nearly impossible to meet. Eventually everyone will be forced into the government program. Obama leaves nothing to chance. He will say anything to move this country to socialism, even as people put their heads in the sand and deny it.
July 20, 200917 yr Do you have a choice on where your kid goes to public school? (Unless you move, or send to a private school (still pay taxes on the public school)) No. What makes anyone think we are going to have a choice in this matter?
July 20, 200917 yr Do you have a choice on where your kid goes to public school? (Unless you move, or send to a private school (still pay taxes on the public school)) No. What makes anyone think we are going to have a choice in this matter? Bad analogy, that is a restriction placed upon school districts BY the school districts themselves. Public schools can choose to allow students to attend any if they so chose. Jefferson County does it, I am surprised more school districts don't.
July 20, 200917 yr I had the opportunity to travel to Europe last year and had dinner with a diverse group of people from several countries. They supported their universal health care, but did have the opportunity to buy additional insurance, which gave them better/quicker access to health care. You are saying that this is not going to be an option should universal health care be instituted here? Surely the insurance companies are powerful enough to sway the legislators and no doubt, the legislators would want that as well.
July 20, 200917 yr From my understanding of the bill's language, private insurance will be subject to certain federal standards for coverage. Page 16 reads that these standards will be grandfathered in so that one may keep their current coverage, assuming it doesn't meet the federal standards, while all new coverage will need to meet federal standards. It doesn't make private insurance illegal. What if you change jobs? As explained on the radio by someone from the GAO or CBO, (not sure which) you would not be able to enroll in your employers insurance since they could not add anyone to their current insurance after the beginning of the year in which the legislation passed.
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