That flowery talk about heart, determination, etc. is all fine and dandy, but it doesn't change the fact that a 6-7 Tyler Hansbrough doesn't have the ability to play the 2G or SF in the NBA. He is an undersized PF, bottom line, and will get eaten alive by PFs in the NBA who are 7-foot tall. I'll be shocked if he lasts past his first contract.

 

Tebow stands a better chance of sticking in the NFL because he's a pure athlete, and should be able to transition to a different position much easier. Not really many firm positional height requirements in the NFL. At least not as much as in the NBA.

 

Funny, because Chuck Hayes, standing at just 6'6", has been in the NBA for 3years now, starting in 44 games last season.

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I doubt his stock gets any higher. Now would be a good time to go.

 

I would like him to stay, but I hope he does whats best for him.

Funny, because Chuck Hayes, standing at just 6'6", has been in the NBA for 3years now, starting in 44 games last season.

 

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Funny, because Chuck Hayes, standing at just 6'6", has been in the NBA for 3years now, starting in 44 games last season.

 

I don't think anyone, including Jim, is disputing that Hansbrough could attain "Chuck Hayes" status in the NBA.

 

The point is when talking about one of the greatest college performers ever, a national POY and the only four time unanimous All-ACC selection, the aim is usually higher than Chuck Hayes.

 

I'm pretty sure you just solidified the point with your post.

 

I remember arguing with people last year about Kevin Love and the fact that he was a far better pro prospect than Psycho T. Hansbrough just doesn't have the game to succeed in the NBA like he has in college. That doesn't mean he can't have a career.

Funny, because Chuck Hayes, standing at just 6'6", has been in the NBA for 3years now, starting in 44 games last season.

 

Chuck Hayes is in the league because of his defense. He averages 1.3 points and 3.5 boards a game this year, and is a career 3.4/5.2 guy. And that's with him getting absolutely as much as he possibly can out of his abilities. Probably fair to say Hansbrough is nowhere near as good a defender as Chuck.

 

I've loved watching Hansbrough play over the years. He's a great college player. But it wouldn't shock me if he went undrafted.

That flowery talk about heart, determination, etc. is all fine and dandy, but it doesn't change the fact that a 6-7 Tyler Hansbrough doesn't have the ability to play the 2G or SF in the NBA. He is an undersized PF, bottom line, and will get eaten alive by PFs in the NBA who are 7-foot tall. I'll be shocked if he lasts past his first contract.

 

Tebow stands a better chance of sticking in the NFL because he's a pure athlete, and should be able to transition to a different position much easier. Not really many firm positional height requirements in the NFL. At least not as much as in the NBA.

 

I agree, Hansbrough is a bit undersized to play the paint in the NBA. However, you seem to lean towards the idea that the only reason he came back was because of his weak draft position and I think its not as cut and dry as that. It was a factor but not the deciding factor. He could have been like a lot of players and left after his freshman season. (Thats what the "experts" keep telling us anyways) but he stuck around and lived out his dream, winning a NC. I think he will be a solid role player in the NBA because he won't face any double teams and he has shown he has a little bit of range. All-star? No way. Hopefully, he becomes a Chuck Hayes, or a poor man's Barkley.

I honestly could not care less how well he does in the NBA, he helped my team win a Championship and he stayed in school. Remember what he did on the college level, because he may be the last of his kind (four year All-American ect, ect..)

I don't think anyone, including Jim, is disputing that Hansbrough could attain "Chuck Hayes" status in the NBA.

 

The point is when talking about one of the greatest college performers ever, a national POY and the only four time unanimous All-ACC selection, the aim is usually higher than Chuck Hayes.

 

I'm pretty sure you just solidified the point with your post.

 

I remember arguing with people last year about Kevin Love and the fact that he was a far better pro prospect than Psycho T. Hansbrough just doesn't have the game to succeed in the NBA like he has in college. That doesn't mean he can't have a career.

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I agree, Hansbrough is a bit undersized to play the paint in the NBA. However, you seem to lean towards the idea that the only reason he came back was because of his weak draft position and I think its not as cut and dry as that. It was a factor but not the deciding factor. He could have been like a lot of players and left after his freshman season. (Thats what the "experts" keep telling us anyways) but he stuck around and lived out his dream, winning a NC. I think he will be a solid role player in the NBA because he won't face any double teams and he has shown he has a little bit of range. All-star? No way. Hopefully, he becomes a Chuck Hayes, or a poor man's Barkley.

I honestly could not care less how well he does in the NBA, he helped my team win a Championship and he stayed in school. Remember what he did on the college level, because he may be the last of his kind (four year All-American ect, ect..)

 

No, I don't want anyone to mistake that it was his sole reason for staying. I love that he stayed all four years and wish more players would. I know Roy experimented some with him playing more on the wing, but they should have been doing that sooner, as it was obvious he wasn't going to grow much more.

 

I hope he proves me wrong, but I have to look at it as a realist. And the realist in me says the odds are overwhelmingly stacked against a 6-7 power forward.

That flowery talk about heart, determination, etc. is all fine and dandy, but it doesn't change the fact that a 6-7 Tyler Hansbrough doesn't have the ability to play the 2G or SF in the NBA. He is an undersized PF, bottom line, and will get eaten alive by PFs in the NBA who are 7-foot tall. I'll be shocked if he lasts past his first contract.

 

Tebow stands a better chance of sticking in the NFL because he's a pure athlete, and should be able to transition to a different position much easier. Not really many firm positional height requirements in the NFL. At least not as much as in the NBA.

 

I never said he would make a good NBA player, what I said was that I applaud him for returing for his senior season to fullfill one goal: Win a National Championship. I never said a word about Hansbrough being a great NBA player. I understand he's 6'7 and that he will have to guard the taller 2's and 3's in the NBA and that he is slow and not athletic enough to guard those type athletes, but give him credit. He did what most kids that are as good as he is did: Stayed all 4 years. He could have went to the NBA after his freshman season, but didn't. To me, that is what makes Collegiate Sports better than Professional Sports. Kids like Tim Tebow and Tyler Hansbrough.

C'mon Hansborough will make it in the NBA. I don't care how short or unathletic he is. To me there are a few types of players in the NBA: Superstars, specialist (shotblockers, 3pt shooters, etc.), garbage men, young unknowns, and savvy veterans. Psycho T will be a garbage type player. He will be the guy who comes in a gets the tough boards and points for a team. Hustle and hardwork can make up for a lot, look at Anderson Varajao. I know Varajao is quite a bit taller than Hansborough, but TH has a million times better offensive game. If Chuck Hayes can stay on an NBA roster Hansborough can.

 

BTW, Tebow will play QB in the NFL, IMHO. He will work hard and get it done. People have always doubted him, and he has always proved them wrong. The knock on him should be that he is always in shotgun. If a team sits him for a few years they can work on that. Alot of their passing game is kinda prostyled, not necessarily the plays that you see on sportcenter like the jump pass, but Meyer built alot of his passing offense on pro-principles.

C'mon Hansborough will make it in the NBA. I don't care how short or unathletic he is. To me there are a few types of players in the NBA: Superstars, specialist (shotblockers, 3pt shooters, etc.), garbage men, young unknowns, and savvy veterans. Psycho T will be a garbage type player. He will be the guy who comes in a gets the tough boards and points for a team. Hustle and hardwork can make up for a lot, look at Anderson Varajao. I know Varajao is quite a bit taller than Hansborough, but TH has a million times better offensive game. If Chuck Hayes can stay on an NBA roster Hansborough can.

 

BTW, Tebow will play QB in the NFL, IMHO. He will work hard and get it done. People have always doubted him, and he has always proved them wrong. The knock on him should be that he is always in shotgun. If a team sits him for a few years they can work on that. Alot of their passing game is kinda prostyled, not necessarily the plays that you see on sportcenter like the jump pass, but Meyer built alot of his passing offense on pro-principles.

Some valid points, my only concern with Psycho T is that he has to work extremely hard now to get up that goofy low handed hook shot that simply is not going to work in the NBA. Do we really see him backing down Tim Duncan? And I do not think we see him playing along the perimeter.

 

The energy and aggressiveness Psycho T brings will most likely be neutralized by the pace and rules of the NBA game. A good example is Joakim Noah. I see these two as somewhat similar players. Noah is a little bigger and faster than Psycho T and he is just another guy in the NBA averaging 6.4 pts and 7.5 rebs. People like that are needed in the NBA. Hopefully Psycho T can be one of those guys or better... :thumb:

 

The only leg up Tebow has is that he is a physical freak of nature while TH is not.

While I think Ellington goes, I feel he will not have much of an impact at the next level.

While I think Ellington goes, I feel he will not have much of an impact at the next level.

 

He's probably too short to be a 2G (I don't believe he's really 6-4), and I'm not confident he can play point.

 

Interesting take on Ellington's pro chances:

 

Wayne Ellington: A Scout's-Eye View