I don't think you have done your research. It was only 2 years ago that Franklin County went to Lexington Catholic and was up by about 35 at half time only to fall a foot short in double-overtime to the Princeton Spread and Ben Revere. The following week Lex Cath lost to Cov Cath in overtime. Cov Cath won the state championship game by a landslide a week later. The problem Franklin County has had over the past 5 years is that they had to play Highlands until things were re-districted. Franklin County would have most likely beaten the Boyle County teams when Ammons was there. However, Ammons was one of the best high school competitors to ever come through FCHS. Some kids just compete. Honestly, the game w/ Catholic was very similar to the Trinity / Male game that was played at Papa John's when Brohm squeeked out a win against one of Kentucky's best ever... It was the Revere & Ammons show...

 

 

Well yea I've done my research. The ole dreaded pole cat which Dusty Bonner drew up basically in the sand came out in the second half of that game and let Catholic back in and won the football game. My point being your best team in recent years still lost to Catholic TWICE that year and that would be the 2 seed in the other district from last season behind Boyle who also lost to Bell. Boyle is reloading with a lot of their talent back with their runingback, best dlineman, and absolute stud at linebacker all return. So you wont be beating Boyle any time soon. And Bell's Junior class could be the best class the school has ever seen. Good luck beating Lexington Catholic, Boyle and Bell all in a row. It wont happen.

 

Franklin County doesnt have enough money to give all of their students books right now how much do you really think they are worried about football?:laugh:

 

Donnie Walker and Dennis Ledford are good football coaches and they only stayed a few years a piece. They may hire Ray Grahm or Chris Tracy. Chris would be the smart hire but Ray has a lot of pull in the town with him being related to the Mayor and buddies with the Principal. I dont see either one of them staying around more than 4 seasons at the most.

Well yea I've done my research. The ole dreaded pole cat which Dusty Bonner drew up basically in the sand came out in the second half of that game and let Catholic back in and won the football game. My point being your best team in recent years still lost to Catholic TWICE that year and that would be the 2 seed in the other district from last season behind Boyle who also lost to Bell. Boyle is reloading with a lot of their talent back with their runingback, best dlineman, and absolute stud at linebacker all return. So you wont be beating Boyle any time soon. And Bell's Junior class could be the best class the school has ever seen. Good luck beating Lexington Catholic, Boyle and Bell all in a row. It wont happen.

 

Franklin County doesnt have enough money to give all of their students books right now how much do you really think they are worried about football?:laugh:

 

Donnie Walker and Dennis Ledford are good football coaches and they only stayed a few years a piece. They may hire Ray Grahm or Chris Tracy. Chris would be the smart hire but Ray has a lot of pull in the town with him being related to the Mayor and buddies with the Principal. I dont see either one of them staying around more than 4 seasons at the most.

 

You have no idea why Walker or Ledford are no longer at FC.:thumb: And once again I will remind you that games are won on the field, so let the kids play and decide the outcome. They sure don't need your great knowledge of the future. :sssh: And yea it's funny that there isn't enough money for books.:puke: Let it go dude. :ohbrother:

You have no idea why Walker or Ledford are no longer at FC.:thumb: And once again I will remind you that games are won on the field, so let the kids play and decide the outcome. They sure don't need your great knowledge of the future. :sssh: And yea it's funny that there isn't enough money for books.:puke: Let it go dude. :ohbrother:

 

And trust me I have a pretty good idea why Ledford and Donnie quit I assure you I know more about it than you do. And I agree the games will be played on the field and their is some talent in Franklin County not enough to win against those three in my opinion and recent history says what I am saying.

 

Its a job that looks pretty good when you drive by and when get inside you may start to think again a lot like Dunbar in Lexington. You can win some games but not enough to win a title and the headaches you will deal outside of football will be enough to make you leave in 2-3 years like a couple of other coaches have.

 

I know Donnie left to work with Tony Franklin and everyone will say that was the reason but if he wanted out of coaching so bad and just wanted to go around helping teams with the system why was he interested in the Tates Creek job when Mike Harmon got it???:idunno:

And trust me I have a pretty good idea why Ledford and Donnie quit I assure you I know more about it than you do. And I agree the games will be played on the field and their is some talent in Franklin County not enough to win against those three in my opinion and recent history says what I am saying.

 

Its a job that looks pretty good when you drive by and when get inside you may start to think again a lot like Dunbar in Lexington. You can win some games but not enough to win a title and the headaches you will deal outside of football will be enough to make you leave in 2-3 years like a couple of other coaches have.

 

I know Donnie left to work with Tony Franklin and everyone will say that was the reason but if he wanted out of coaching so bad and just wanted to go around helping teams with the system why was he interested in the Tates Creek job when Mike Harmon got it???:idunno:

 

You are wrong again.:clap: His name is spelled Donny, not ie. And BTW you don't know more than I do about it. That is a promise. I'll let you figure that out. Donny was interested in Tates Creek since that is where he went to HS.:thumb:

You are wrong again.:clap: His name is spelled Donny, not ie. And BTW you don't know more than I do about it. That is a promise. I'll let you figure that out. Donny was interested in Tates Creek since that is where he went to HS.:thumb:

 

Well we can agree to disagree on who knows what more and I have coached against Franklin County in these years on several occassions and won on several occasions. I have facts on my side Franklin County since the "system" was put in place by Donnie lost to Lexington Catholic in 03,04,05,twice and in 06 with ZERO WINS OVER CATHOLIC and beaten by Boyle in 08 by over 30 points. 4 head coaches since the 2002 season counting the new one coming in. Always a sign of a stable program

 

Two playoff victories over Bourbon County and East Jessamine. And now they are good enough to compete with Lexington Catholic who they cant ever beat even on their "good years" Boyle County who has 5 state championships and no Chuck Smith is not there but most of the staff other than him and Pardue are still there and they are running the same offense and defense and Hester is pretty good at what he does as well. And lets not forget they are freaking loaded with talent. And good lord if Franklin County thinks they can stay with in 30 of Bell County for the next two years geeze you would find out the hard way. I'm sure Dudley's son would love to see mesh crossing across the middle of the field, or maybe even shallow, or maybe a jail break screen :clap:

 

And not to mention if Ray gets the job and they have to put in a brand new offensive system. He has never been a system coach, he has been the d coordinator with Rains who runs the system but does not deal with much of the offense at all. Chris would be the smart hire and they should pick him but I dont know if they will or not.

Well we can agree to disagree on who knows what more and I have coached against Franklin County in these years on several occassions and won on several occasions. I have facts on my side Franklin County since the "system" was put in place by Donnie lost to Lexington Catholic in 03,04,05,twice and in 06 with ZERO WINS OVER CATHOLIC and beaten by Boyle in 08 by over 30 points. 4 head coaches since the 2002 season counting the new one coming in. Always a sign of a stable program

 

Two playoff victories over Bourbon County and East Jessamine. And now they are good enough to compete with Lexington Catholic who they cant ever beat even on their "good years" Boyle County who has 5 state championships and no Chuck Smith is not there but most of the staff other than him and Pardue are still there and they are running the same offense and defense and Hester is pretty good at what he does as well. And lets not forget they are freaking loaded with talent. And good lord if Franklin County thinks they can stay with in 30 of Bell County for the next two years geeze you would find out the hard way. I'm sure Dudley's son would love to see mesh crossing across the middle of the field, or maybe even shallow, or maybe a jail break screen :clap:

 

And not to mention if Ray gets the job and they have to put in a brand new offensive system. He has never been a system coach, he has been the d coordinator with Rains who runs the system but does not deal with much of the offense at all. Chris would be the smart hire and they should pick him but I dont know if they will or not.

 

I'm done discussing this with you. I did a little more than coach "against":notworthy: FC. I'll get back on this thread when there is some positive feedback on the new coach. And BTW I also know Coach Tracy very well. He would be a great hire. But there are a whole lot more than just Tracy or Graham that have interviewed. But I'm sure you know that, right? Later.

I'm done discussing this with you. I did a little more than coach "against":notworthy: FC. I'll get back on this thread when there is some positive feedback on the new coach. And BTW I also know Coach Tracy very well. He would be a great hire. But there are a whole lot more than just Tracy or Graham that have interviewed. But I'm sure you know that, right? Later.

 

 

Unless they both back out one of them will be the new head coach. Ray is the interesting one cause he is retired is he going to try and get a 100 day contract or is he going to go back into teaching. My gut says he wants a 100day contract but if Ledford leaves from teaching and I expect him to do so but thats an educated guess then Franklin County has to hire another teacher and put Ray on a 100 day contract which I dont think that will sit good with the Super. since the school district has ZERO money right now.

 

I'm not trying to be negative to Franklin County I think its a pretty good job but to pretend that its up there with the other three I have mentioned is dreaming. I coached on the East Jessamine teams of 03 and 04 which beat Franklin County and I know Ammons very well and most of the coaching staff Donnie, Ledford, Ammons dad and some others over the time. They were up and coming then and are better now. East at the time was in a similar position to what Franklin is now I dont think Franklin is quite that good East beat Bell County, and Covington Catholic and Oldham County when they had Bramblett Franklin County has not had a signature win to put them into that nature of the top teams.

 

I remember in 04 when Harrison and Ray came down to the last play on a two point conversion at Catholic to win the game but they didn't get it and ended up 3rd in the district with no playoff wins.

 

I know the feeling very well of being close to beating Lexington Catholic but close gets you no where.

 

I saw someone mentioned earlier how Franklin had to beat Highlands then and its different now. Thats true sort of but the only reason they were playing Highlands is because they were 4th in the district they also lost to Lexington Cathloic, East Jessmamine, and Harrison County so they could have avoided that problem by winning more regular season games. Even the year they almost beat Catholic in the Playoffs they were 3rd in the district they had to beat East Jessamine which I was no longer apart of not that it mattered but I didnt see that games with Franklin County on those years.

 

I see Franklin County going 7-3 maybe 8-2 for the next couple of years winning the district maybe both beating East or West Jessamine then hosting Lexington Catholic and getting beat.

 

Now if Boyle gets redistricted in the next few years "which I think that is a possibile becasue I dont know if the KHSAA wants the 4A championship game every year in the final four with Bell vs. Boyle when you could put Boyle with Marions district" I think Franklin will have a good shot at getting to a regional championship game then they would get beat.

 

Overall its an ok job with some good players not enough to win a title or really even get that close but the headaches from the school will bring it down huge.

Unless they both back out one of them will be the new head coach. Ray is the interesting one cause he is retired is he going to try and get a 100 day contract or is he going to go back into teaching. My gut says he wants a 100day contract but if Ledford leaves from teaching and I expect him to do so but thats an educated guess then Franklin County has to hire another teacher and put Ray on a 100 day contract which I dont think that will sit good with the Super. since the school district has ZERO money right now.

 

I'm not trying to be negative to Franklin County I think its a pretty good job but to pretend that its up there with the other three I have mentioned is dreaming. I coached on the East Jessamine teams of 03 and 04 which beat Franklin County and I know Ammons very well and most of the coaching staff Donnie, Ledford, Ammons dad and some others over the time. They were up and coming then and are better now. East at the time was in a similar position to what Franklin is now I dont think Franklin is quite that good East beat Bell County, and Covington Catholic and Oldham County when they had Bramblett Franklin County has not had a signature win to put them into that nature of the top teams.

 

I remember in 04 when Harrison and Ray came down to the last play on a two point conversion at Catholic to win the game but they didn't get it and ended up 3rd in the district with no playoff wins.

 

I know the feeling very well of being close to beating Lexington Catholic but close gets you no where.

 

I saw someone mentioned earlier how Franklin had to beat Highlands then and its different now. Thats true sort of but the only reason they were playing Highlands is because they were 4th in the district they also lost to Lexington Cathloic, East Jessmamine, and Harrison County so they could have avoided that problem by winning more regular season games. Even the year they almost beat Catholic in the Playoffs they were 3rd in the district they had to beat East Jessamine which I was no longer apart of not that it mattered but I didnt see that games with Franklin County on those years.

 

I see Franklin County going 7-3 maybe 8-2 for the next couple of years winning the district maybe both beating East or West Jessamine then hosting Lexington Catholic and getting beat.

 

Now if Boyle gets redistricted in the next few years "which I think that is a possibile becasue I dont know if the KHSAA wants the 4A championship game every year in the final four with Bell vs. Boyle when you could put Boyle with Marions district" I think Franklin will have a good shot at getting to a regional championship game then they would get beat.

 

Overall its an ok job with some good players not enough to win a title or really even get that close but the headaches from the school will bring it down huge.

 

My problem is you saying the kids had no chance. BTW Coach Ledford has told me that he is not giving up the teaching position. And BTW I was on the FC staff the whole time, the one where you knew all of them.:confused: BTW Ammons Dad is Chuck. One more time I'm done with this part of this thread. :popcorn:

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Agree. Popcorns running out though!

So, is it Tracy, Graham, or some other candidate? Is an announcement coming soon?

Franklin County will name a coach at 2:00 today.

My money is on a person who is currently a head coach at a district foe of FCHS.

Edited March 16, 200917 yr by Ram
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Franklin County will name a coach at 2:00 today.

 

 

Is it Floyd Quire?

My Sources say it is Coach Stepp from Harrison county. Pretty solid source.