Here is a idea they both are below the max # of games. Just schedule on next Mon. at say Elliott (neutral floor) winner gets higher seed. What would be fairer than that. No matter how it comes out the other is going to think they got the shaft this would take care of it all.JMO

 

Just got word that there will now be a coin flip. From what I was told, the offer was made to play a game between the 2 teams on a neutral floor and it was declined by one of the schools involved. No word yet as to when the coin flip will be held. I think they will probably flip for the flip to see who gets to call it.

 

You mean someone actually was thinking the same way as my comment. I do not know why they would not want to play they would not be playing each other in the first round. I would like to know which school did not want to play a tie break game that would tell me who really wanted to do it the fairest way and who wants to sneak in the back door.

Obituary

Sportsmanship – Beginning of Athletic Competition – February 11, 2009

 

Sportsmanship died today. The cause of the death is not certain, however greed and pride are prime suspects. The sense of teamwork, respect, responsibility and perspective that high school athletics are supposed to promote was replaced with selfishness, disrespect, blame and did I mention selfishness? In a gathering full of rancor and self promotion, sportsmanship was trampled by fear of opponents and promotion of semantics. Sportsmanship and the positive values it tried to promote, fell by the wayside as men gathered in a small room with the sole purpose of forcing their agendas and desires on the student athletes of others.

 

Sportsmanship is survived by a shimmer of fair play displayed by some. There are those who wanted sportsmanship to live and tried to resuscitate, and sportsmanship was revived a few times, but the death blow actually came a couple of hours after the gang that killed sportsmanship dismissed from the small room to gather in small hamlets to plot sportsmanship’s death.

 

Memorial services will be held for sportsmanship February 23-27 across the 62nd District. Official services will be held at the Harold L Holbrook Athletic Complex East. The Right Most High Reverend of 62nd District Basketball will preside while others carry out portions of the service in their own way. Fans will no doubt bury sportsmanship several times through the week and the carnage will probably continue for weeks to come.

 

Friends may also visit at Ellis T Johnson Arena, Diddle Arena and Rupp Arena during the month of March. Basketball coaches and AD’s across the state are in charge of arrangements.

 

Great!:ylsuper::popcorn:

You mean someone actually was thinking the same way as my comment. I do not know why they would not want to play they would not be playing each other in the first round. I would like to know which school did not want to play a tie break game that would tell me who really wanted to do it the fairest way and who wants to sneak in the back door.

 

I was told it was the newest member of the 62nd District who refused to play a "playoff" game.

Obituary

Sportsmanship – Beginning of Athletic Competition – February 11, 2009

 

Sportsmanship died today. The cause of the death is not certain, however greed and pride are prime suspects. The sense of teamwork, respect, responsibility and perspective that high school athletics are supposed to promote was replaced with selfishness, disrespect, blame and did I mention selfishness? In a gathering full of rancor and self promotion, sportsmanship was trampled by fear of opponents and promotion of semantics. Sportsmanship and the positive values it tried to promote, fell by the wayside as men gathered in a small room with the sole purpose of forcing their agendas and desires on the student athletes of others.

 

Sportsmanship is survived by a shimmer of fair play displayed by some. There are those who wanted sportsmanship to live and tried to resuscitate, and sportsmanship was revived a few times, but the death blow actually came a couple of hours after the gang that killed sportsmanship dismissed from the small room to gather in small hamlets to plot sportsmanship’s death.

 

Memorial services will be held for sportsmanship February 23-27 across the 62nd District. Official services will be held at the Harold L Holbrook Athletic Complex East. The Right Most High Reverend of 62nd District Basketball will preside while others carry out portions of the service in their own way. Fans will no doubt bury sportsmanship several times through the week and the carnage will probably continue for weeks to come.

 

Friends may also visit at Ellis T Johnson Arena, Diddle Arena and Rupp Arena during the month of March. Basketball coaches and AD’s across the state are in charge of arrangements.

 

A classic post!

You mean someone actually was thinking the same way as my comment. I do not know why they would not want to play they would not be playing each other in the first round. I would like to know which school did not want to play a tie break game that would tell me who really wanted to do it the fairest way and who wants to sneak in the back door.

 

I was told it was the newest member of the 62nd District who refused to play a "playoff" game.

 

Anyone ever road a roller coaster? .... up and down, up and down,.... how many hills can you take? A coin toss to decide this mess... :confused: Supposedly each team would have the same odds in their favor, but explain how fair it really is to these teams?

 

If you were a player and your team was in this situation, which would you rather do? Have your team's fate hang on a coin toss or lay it all out on the line and play your heart out in a playoff game? I'm pretty sure it would be an easy choice for many......

I have no dog in the fight, but after reading the two articles below from the ADI, I believe Morgan County has a very legitimate complaint.

 

 

http://www.dailyindependent.com/localsports/local_story_043000748.html

 

 

http://www.dailyindependent.com/localsports/local_story_043000603.html

I have no dog in the fight, but after reading the two articles below from the ADI, I believe Morgan County has a very legitimate complaint.

 

 

http://www.dailyindependent.com/localsports/local_story_043000748.html

 

 

http://www.dailyindependent.com/localsports/local_story_043000603.html

 

 

 

Well I just now read the post that said it will be decided by a coin flip. I also see where a one game playoff was offered. The one game playoff seems like the fairest way to settle this mess. I don't know why one school would be against this? It would also generate more revenue for both schools. Why was Morgan County against the one game playoff?

Obituary

Sportsmanship – Beginning of Athletic Competition – February 11, 2009

 

Sportsmanship died today. The cause of the death is not certain, however greed and pride are prime suspects. The sense of teamwork, respect, responsibility and perspective that high school athletics are supposed to promote was replaced with selfishness, disrespect, blame and did I mention selfishness? In a gathering full of rancor and self promotion, sportsmanship was trampled by fear of opponents and promotion of semantics. Sportsmanship and the positive values it tried to promote, fell by the wayside as men gathered in a small room with the sole purpose of forcing their agendas and desires on the student athletes of others.

 

Sportsmanship is survived by a shimmer of fair play displayed by some. There are those who wanted sportsmanship to live and tried to resuscitate, and sportsmanship was revived a few times, but the death blow actually came a couple of hours after the gang that killed sportsmanship dismissed from the small room to gather in small hamlets to plot sportsmanship’s death.

 

Memorial services will be held for sportsmanship February 23-27 across the 62nd District. Official services will be held at the Harold L Holbrook Athletic Complex East. The Right Most High Reverend of 62nd District Basketball will preside while others carry out portions of the service in their own way. Fans will no doubt bury sportsmanship several times through the week and the carnage will probably continue for weeks to come.

 

Friends may also visit at Ellis T Johnson Arena, Diddle Arena and Rupp Arena during the month of March. Basketball coaches and AD’s across the state are in charge of arrangements.

 

I beg to differ sir. Sportsmanship died long ago. Have you heard fans cheer against other players , not cheer for their teams? Have you seen parents ejected from games due to threats to officials. Have you seen things thrown onto floor? Fights? Coaches face down referee's? All these things are accepted as part of the game, and that is ok if you see it that way,but are all loss of sportsmanship. This instance was a case of strict rules intrepretation due to poor wording by the 62nd district. If Morgan's fate is determined by tipping it up or a coin flip, I would imagine the people of the 62 would be fine with that in comparison to being "pencil whipped" into a game, due to a "clarification" that was rightfully overturned. (IMO)

Was a one game playoff a part of any tiebreaker procedure voted on by the district tems when seeding was voted in?

Was a one game playoff a part of any tiebreaker procedure voted on by the district tems when seeding was voted in?

 

 

I see your point, but if you feel confident about your team, wouldn't you rather play a game to decide your fate rather than depend on the chances of a coin flip?

I would want to play but that is not part of the tiebreaker system. I agree with you LRCW Morgan County did everything by the book.

Absolutely I think they should play for the 3rd seed. Leave it on the floor, don't let your fate be decided by the chance of a flip. The complaint was about the showcase game not being counted,nothing else.

Absolutely I think they should play for the 3rd seed. Leave it on the floor, don't let your fate be decided by the chance of a flip. The complaint was about the showcase game not being counted,nothing else.

 

 

And they had every right to complain.

I still do not see the home cooking angle. East Carter did not make the decision, the KHSAA did. There was no tie breaker system for three teams according to our newest member. It seems funny that all of the other schools knew the intent of the rule was to break any tie except for Morgan County. They also refused a playoff game to decide it. I suppose they feel their best shot at going to the Regional lies in a coin toss and not competition. Go Radio is exactly right...sportsmanship has died.

Morgan Co. offered to let the kids decide the outcome, but that was met hastily with a nope, meeting is done today, and kids have already decided...so now, since their own ruling in their favor was overturned, they want a mulligan and say "oh let's play now".....It was clearly said in the meeting that the kids have already decided it and they wanted it to stop then, thus benefitting them...which was against the strong urge by the KHSAA to post-pone the seeding until Sunday....in addition, a motion was clearly made by Morgan Co. to abide by KHSAA reccomendation and have the seeding done on Sunday to ALLOW THE KIDS TO DECIDED...but that was denied by East's administration. Facts are facts. The motion made by Morgan Co. died for a lack of a 2nd motion...there was no vote.

 

Those are facts and they are documented.