Apparently some people measure success by the success of the team (such as, but not limited to, winning championships), while others measure success by individual playing time (or personal, rather than team, records). I would be willing to wager that those who do not put team championships ahead of individual playing time probably haven't won a whole lot of team championships.

Apparently some people measure success by the success of the team (such as, but not limited to, winning championships), while others measure success by individual playing time (or personal, rather than team, records). I would be willing to wager that those who do not put team championships ahead of individual playing time probably haven't won a whole lot of team championships.

Perhaps some of these that weren't offered the chance to compete for a championship went to schools that didn't dress 100 kids on Friday nights. My high school had 22 players my sophomore year and only 18 my junior year. But I know I should have checked my ego at the door for an opportunity at the championship you say we had a chance at winning. Not everyone has the choices that kids in Louisville and NKY have. Most counties in this state have one high school, maybe two so all kids don't have a choice. You may want to think about that before labeling others selfish or "losers." And no public school can accept a donation to build a weight room or stadium such as T or X without giving money to the other programs. Just a small advantage, but I'm sure those tax dollars are an advantage for the public schools.

Apparently some people measure success by the success of the team (such as, but not limited to, winning championships), while others measure success by individual playing time (or personal, rather than team, records). I would be willing to wager that those who do not put team championships ahead of individual playing time probably haven't won a whole lot of team championships.

 

I spoke nothing of measuring success. The question was what would you rather do, play or watch and get a ring. I would MUCH rather had my teams win state titles, but I wouldn't trade the experiences with my teammates and friends for ANY number of state titles.

 

My point is that I played the game to PLAY, not watch. If I had simply wanted a state title ring, I would have transferred.

What if HHS was not a state contender every year and Campbell County was, would you then go to CC or stay at HHS?

 

Some years back (mid 90's), there was an 8th grader with great potential attending a school that did not offer football. Because he wanted to play football, going into his freshman year, he basically had a choice to make between Campbell County and Highlands because they were pretty much the closest schools to his residence.

 

Which would you choose for you or your child?

Some years back (mid 90's), there was an 8th grader with great potential attending a school that did not offer football. Because he wanted to play football, going into his freshman year, he basically had a choice to make between Campbell County and Highlands because they were pretty much the closest schools to his residence.

 

Which would you choose for you or your child?

 

 

If my child wanted to play football, I would let him go to Highlands. There is something to be said for the lessons learned on the field of play as well as what they learn in the classroom.

Perhaps some of these that weren't offered the chance to compete for a championship went to schools that didn't dress 100 kids on Friday nights. My high school had 22 players my sophomore year and only 18 my junior year. But I know I should have checked my ego at the door for an opportunity at the championship you say we had a chance at winning. Not everyone has the choices that kids in Louisville and NKY have. Most counties in this state have one high school, maybe two so all kids don't have a choice. You may want to think about that before labeling others selfish or "losers." And no public school can accept a donation to build a weight room or stadium such as T or X without giving money to the other programs. Just a small advantage, but I'm sure those tax dollars are an advantage for the public schools.

 

Buford, I don't think you understand fund raising at Trinity. First, major fund raising is done by the school, not the team. It is used to fund the most pressing needs of the school first. At Trinity, millions were spent on academic improvements and the schools endowment BEFORE the Marshall Center or the stadium were funded. Second, that stadium you see is used by all sports, including intramurals and PE classes. It isn't just for the football team. Also, the Marshall Center and its weight room are used by all students, not just athletes and certainly not just the football team. In the weight room thread, one poster was touting their new weight room (it looked very nice) and noted that they didn't have to share it with other sports. I would think that if you built a facility you would WANT it to be used by all of the students in the school, athletes or not, boys and girls.

The weight room and stadium are ridiculous, and any school would be jealous of these facilities, much as T is when it goes to look at X's new athletic improvements. (sorry, had to get a little dig in) But to say that X or T don't have an advantage with fundraising over most schools in this state is ridiculous. I realize that there has been MAJOR improvements in ALL facilities at T over my fourteen years in Louisville, but please also realize that if those improvements needed to be made at Southern, Shawnee, or Doss that those schools would be limited to what the state would give them and any private donations would have to be spread out evenly between all programs, including girl's. T and X don't have to worry about Title IX like public schools do. And I agree with you on the facilities should be for ALL students. I have two nephews and two brother-in-laws that attend or attended T so I understand the importance this school has in the community but I also realize that X and T have UNFAIR advantages over public schools that get dismissed as crying or not stepping up. I respect the crap out of T and X, Glasser was my coach two years at UK's camp, but to say it's as easy as "work harder, our kids do" is just plain ignorance. But to get back on subject, I'd still chose playing over watching. I think kids at T and X get used to and accept secondary roles. Is that really applying oneself, or selling oneself short?

My son would rather sit on the bench at Boyle County and win a ring with his friends than play all of the time at a different school and lose. He wants to win(or lose for that matter) with his friends and classmates, than play all day and lose with strangers.

I think kids at T and X get used to and accept secondary roles. Is that really applying oneself, or selling oneself short?

 

 

Maybe it's fulfilling a life-long dream of wearing the uniform & contributing in any way you can to be a part of something bigger than yourself. Some on here get it but many of you that didn't grow up in Louisville (& even some who did) will simply never understand...:ylsuper:

I think kids at T and X get used to and accept secondary roles. Is that really applying oneself, or selling oneself short?

 

 

Maybe it's fulfilling a life-long dream of wearing the uniform & contributing in any way you can to be a part of something bigger than yourself. Some on here get it but many of you that didn't grow up in Louisville (& even some who did) will simply never understand...:ylsuper:

 

I understand the history and legacy of Catholic football in Jeff County. My father was a player on the Flaget 1961 Championship team. It is a great honor to wear the uniform.

 

However, the question is not about the schools, but would you rather sit and get a ring or play and probably not get one. I can honestly say that I wouldn't have traded playing on my 1-9 senior season's team with my friends than to get a ring, playing or not, at another school.

Not sure what the "etiquette" is, but I'm sure the ring companies will take the $ if parent orders it. I would be interested in learning whether this is "frowned upon" at most schools.

 

At Mayfield if a freshman goes to work outs and two-a-days he can dress and be part of the team on Friday nights. The freshman on the 2002 team got rings just like the rest of the team. With so little numbers at Mayfield now the freshman are the scout team. They go at it as hard as they can and it helps them going up against starters in practice.

I think kids at T and X get used to and accept secondary roles. Is that really applying oneself, or selling oneself short?

 

 

Maybe it's fulfilling a life-long dream of wearing the uniform & contributing in any way you can to be a part of something bigger than yourself. Some on here get it but many of you that didn't grow up in Louisville (& even some who did) will simply never understand...:ylsuper:

That is the best explanation that I have EVER heard about it. It's sort of like a fraternity in that those that are in have a lifetime of connections and networks that help them succeed far beyond football. Those on the outside aren't supposed to get it and that causes the tension. But I think the Andy Clark example is a reason why more kids should be encouraged to seek playing time over tradition. Had he gone to T he would have sat four years behind Brohm and not have gotten his college education paid for. Sometimes the smaller, less traditional power is the better option.