Kind of off topic, but why hasn't Moss played this season? Injury?

 

I heard they moved to Ohio, but I did see her at the Lloyd Ryle game on Monday.

I heard they moved to Ohio, but I did see her at the Lloyd Ryle game on Monday.

 

Where did you see her? In the stands? On the bench? On the floor?

 

Somewhere on here I read she had to sit 27 days for the 27 days she missed or something like that. Again, if she went to Ohio, I am sure she would lose some eligibility as mentioned several times on this thread.

 

Back to the quarter limit, did she last year ever play more than just Varsity minutes?

Where did you see her? In the stands? On the bench? On the floor?

 

Somewhere on here I read she had to sit 27 days for the 27 days she missed or something like that. Again, if she went to Ohio, I am sure she would lose some eligibility as mentioned several times on this thread.

 

Back to the quarter limit, did she last year ever play more than just Varsity minutes?

 

 

Moss will likely play after Christmas. She is practicing with and traveling with the team, probably sitting behind the team bench if not on it.

 

Had she moved to Ohio it is probable she could have gotten four years of eligibility through a waiver process that seems to work there. It certainly worked for O. J. Mayo who played two years at Rose Hill Academy in Kentucky then played as a freshman, sophomore, and junior at North College Hill in Ohio before playing his senior year his home town of Huntington, WV. So he played six years of HS basketball in three different states.

 

I think O. J. could have played his senior year at NCH, meaning he could have gotten four years in Ohio even after playing two years in Kentucky. My understanding is he decided to "go home" after his friend and teammate Bill Walker left for Kansas State and he (O. J.) had some suspension problems.

 

So I would think Moss could have gotten the same kind of waiver had she moved to Ohio. But she didn't and hopefully will be back on the court soon for Ryle.

 

Oh, and to your last question, Moss played only varsity minutes last season after moving up from the Gray middle school team. She averaged 15.0 PPG and 10.5 RPG for the 19 HS games she played as an eight grader.

I don't know, I am just trying to go through what I remember hearing. I don't work for OHSAA and could care less about Mayo/Walker. I also remember Mayo transfered back somewhere away from North College Hill his "senior" year because he wasn't going to be able to play in Ohio. I do know that when there are transfers from KY and they played Varsity as a 7th or 8th grader, they do lose eligibility, or can lose eligibility. I am sure it is case by case. I am sure if you google the Mayo/Walker thing it will show up something.

 

 

I quoted you because you responded to my question. You did not have to keep answering or responding.

 

Is that google thing something new? I will have to try it sometime.:thumb:

Are we the only state that has schools so small that this a Ky problem only?

 

I assume you are being facetious.

 

There are several states with schools this small.

My daughter played up and loved every minute of it. She is disappointed now because she only plays Varsity and does not get to play in 3 games a night. If she had not played up, her season would have been over at Christmas time ( in Middle School) and she would have had no opportunity to keep practicing and playing. In rural areas there are no local AAU teams etc and certainly no extra gyms to practice in (unless the parents want to drive them). Most Parents can not do this so the School takes over the job of developing them.

 

I think it is great and from most of the local examples it is good for the kids.

Believe me I've been there. 10 games is too much. Our 8th grade team made it too the finals of the KBA a few years back. Played the quarters in the morning and won. The semis were next and unforunately we had to play 4 OTs to win. Yeah only 2 or 3 hours of play. Very competitive and very pyhsical play. We now had to play the finals roughly 45 minutes after the 4OT semis. Kids were whipped. They played their hearts out but just couldn't get over the fatigue. It was sad. Too much! BTW a 3 hr practice is way too long if not pyhsically then also mentally. Of course a knowledgeable parent would know that.

 

Sounds like you should have shared your opinion at that very moment and told the coach to sit her down because she's played too much!

 

We can beat this forever and neither one of us will budge. There are several people reading this, and some posting, that I know have done the same thing over the years; however, they are smarter than me and have chosen not to engage.

 

Anyway, it sounds like you are happy with the decisions "you" made and I'll have to live with the decisions "I" made. Which was my point to this whole topic. "We" made the decision.

Most middle school or freshman girls that play varsity, don't even dress freshman. I would say its pretty standard that kids play in two games. (ex. JV and Varsity or Freshman/JV) This isn't a practice that just affects high school. Most middle schools have 6th grade teams. You see some that have kids pulling the "triple-header". However, most just have kids play on two teams--similar to high school.

Most middle school or freshman girls that play varsity, don't even dress freshman. I would say its pretty standard that kids play in two games. (ex. JV and Varsity or Freshman/JV) This isn't a practice that just affects high school. Most middle schools have 6th grade teams. You see some that have kids pulling the "triple-header". However, most just have kids play on two teams--similar to high school.

 

You're correct it is rare that a girl pulls a t header. The fact that it is allowed is where I have the problem

With Ohio's 4 year rule, middle school kids can be pulled up, but they only get 4 years eligibility. So why waste their middle school years? Also, because Ohio has the 4 year rule, I think it is funny how people still say the Moss girl is going to transfer to Lakota West in Ohio. She is currently playing her 4th year of Varsity in KY? She wouldn't be allowed to see the floor in OH due to her 4 years being up.

 

Shanece Miller went to Dixie and transferred to Anderson last year. She started playing on the varsity level in the 7th grade and is currently playing her 6th year of varsity at Anderson. So I don't think this rule applies to out-of-state transfers.

With Ohio's 4 year rule, middle school kids can be pulled up, but they only get 4 years eligibility. So why waste their middle school years? Also, because Ohio has the 4 year rule, I think it is funny how people still say the Moss girl is going to transfer to Lakota West in Ohio. She is currently playing her 4th year of Varsity in KY? She wouldn't be allowed to see the floor in OH due to her 4 years being up.

 

Shanece Miller went to Dixie and transferred to Anderson last year. She started playing on the varsity level in the 7th grade and is currently playing her 6th year of varsity at Anderson. So I don't think this rule applies to out-of-state transfers.

 

Not according to this

33.3) 7th & 8th grade students may not practice with, participate on the same team with or

compete against 9th through 12th grade students.

 

OHSAA General Rules

I understand your position, but I believe that allowing kids to play up has improved the girls game drastically over the last decade. I understand that there is some potential for burnout or injuries. However, the paradigm has shifted in girls athletics overall. You see more girls participating in athletics than ever before. With that, much like the boys, some girls play year round to gain an edge. Therefore, if they are going to be playing anyway, I think it would be best for them to play in the school system where there is some accountability.

Tennessee allows 8th graders to play for schools that are under the same principal. That usually includes very small publics and privates. Most schools have separate middle schools.

I understand your position, but I believe that allowing kids to play up has improved the girls game drastically over the last decade. I understand that there is some potential for burnout or injuries. However, the paradigm has shifted in girls athletics overall. You see more girls participating in athletics than ever before. With that, much like the boys, some girls play year round to gain an edge. Therefore, if they are going to be playing anyway, I think it would be best for them to play in the school system where there is some accountability.

 

If more girls are playing, then why is there a need for middle schoolers to play high school?

Most varsity coaches that have a freshman good enough to play major varsity minutes will not allow the player to play a triple header.Most people only remember who won the varsity game because it is the only one that matter in the long run.