October 25, 200817 yr One very conservative Christian view of what the world will be like in 2012. The highlights: -Liberals gain 6-3 advantage on Supreme Court -Boy scouts disband because Supreme Court forces them to hire homosexual scout leaders who will "sleep in tents with them". -Teaching 1st graders about the "goodness of homosexuality" -Bible can no longer be on TV or radio -All campus Christian organizations cease to exist. -"It's almost impossible to keep children from seeing pornography" -No more homeschooling -Al Qaeda takes over Iraq -4 terrorist bombings of American cities -Russia invades Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania ,Ukraine, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary and Bulgaria -Iran nukes Tel Aviv -Oil $7/barrel Thought I would pass this along for a good laugh.
October 25, 200817 yr Sad thing is that there are lots of folks who will take this fearmongering as "gospel".
October 25, 200817 yr Sad thing is that there are lots of folks who will take this fearmongering as "gospel". Couldn't have said it better myself. :thumb:
October 25, 200817 yr Call it fearmongering if you want but I can see 4 of those actually happening if Obama is elected.
October 25, 200817 yr One fact you can count on is that the population of the United States will decrease.
October 25, 200817 yr One fact you can count on is that the population of the United States will decrease. Meaning?
October 25, 200817 yr One fact you can count on is that the population of the United States will decrease. If you mean that the population from the day Obama takes office to the day he leaves office has declined, then I will change my username to HighlandsBluebirds5432. OK, I am just kidding. But explain further.
October 25, 200817 yr I would suspect he means that the increase in the availablity and acceptance of abortion as a form of birth control will limit population growth, but that does not account for the increase in illegal immigrants that will more than offset the decline in native born citizens. You know, three out of the 12 items listed are already happening. :lol: Another three have already come up in various ways. I don't view that list as being totally far-fetched and absurd. It's funny how many of the things we accept as "normal" today, would have also been labeled "fear mongering" 30 or 40 years ago.
October 25, 200817 yr Author You know, three out of the 12 items listed are already happening. :lol: Another three have already come up in various ways. Which ones?
October 25, 200817 yr I underestimated in my first post. I think that certain arguments are plausible for most of the scenarios presented. I'm not stating they will happen, but they are hardly without evidence or precedent of possibility. One very conservative Christian view of what the world will be like in 2012. The highlights: -Liberals gain 6-3 advantage on Supreme Court . The most objective scenario, is that the Supreme Court is currently made up of four conservatives, four liberals and one moderate that tends to swing both directions on various issues. A 4-4-1 ratio. Just looking at the ages of the current justices and taking the four oldest: John Paul Stevens is 88 years old, tends to vote liberally, has been on the court since 1975, and will likely retire during the next president’s term. Ruth Joan Bader Ginsburg is 75 years old, is the heart of the liberal wing of the court, and could retire or become incapable of serving during the next president’s term. Antonin Gregory Scalia is 72, is the core of the conservative wing of the court, and could retire or become incapable of serving during the next president’s term. Anthony McLeod Kennedy is 72, tends to be the swing vote on the court leaning liberal on social issues, and could retire or become incapable of serving during the next president’s term. Should two liberals, one conservative and one moderate retire and be replaced during an Obama term with a filibuster proof Congress, they will surely be replaced by four liberals, thereby bumping the court to a 6-3 ratio in favor of the liberals. -Boy scouts disband because Supreme Court forces them to hire homosexual scout leaders who will "sleep in tents with them". John Hemstreet -- an alcoholic, former Boy Scout leader, former priest and convicted child molester -- told WorldNetDaily he is an example of the type of person who should be permitted to be a Boy Scout leader. Indeed, he said he was a great scoutmaster. Hemstreet says the Boy Scouts of America should not prevent homosexuals from serving as leaders or members. He was not hesitant to admit his past problems and said it was appropriate for him to be a scoutmaster. "The thing that I did seven years ago is a horrendous thing. I'm not denying that. Nor am I denying that I did it. I was arrested. I was arraigned. I did go to court. I was sentenced. I served my time and I am off probation," explained Hemstreet. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=13203 Using parliamentary procedures to their advantage, members of the Congressional Scouting Caucus last night essentially defeated a bill aimed at punishing the Boy Scouts of America for the organization's ban on homosexual leaders. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=13209 The BSA won a major victory June 28. The U.S. Supreme Court reversed the decision of the New Jersey Supreme Court -- a court order that would have forced BSA to accept gay Scout leaders. The BSA has a national policy that forbids homosexual Scouts or homosexual Scout leaders from membership in the private organization. The successful appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court was expected to end the debate, but the Cozzas have clearly stated they plan to go to war with Boy Scouts until they get their way. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=13201 The Supreme Court vote was 5-4 in favor of the scouts... does anyone honestly not believe that a 6-3 liberal court would rule differently? -Teaching 1st graders about the "goodness of homosexuality" This is just one article of many easily accessed online. From the article: Teaching Kindergarten Kids About 'Human Differences' and Homosexuality Isn't 'Easy' in Newton MassNews Staff April 17, 2003 It hasn't been easy teaching children about homosexuality in the Newton schools because many parents are not happy with the plan, a social worker told the attendees at one of the Fistgate sessions held this year at Tufts University. "I work in the Newton public schools, and a lot of times it can be a very reactionary group, and it has not been easy at all," said Laura Perkins, who is a social worker in the schools. Her session at Fistgate 2003 was about introducing six-year-olds to homosexual concepts. She shared books and sample lesson plans. The session was titled, "Developing Lessons that Help Young Students Understand Human Differences." "What I do is to go into classrooms and teach kids about respect for human differences and to teach social skills lessons," she said, adding, "I have been asked to train new teachers in how to do some of these lessons. The new teachers are being trained to do this." http://www.massnews.com/2003_Edition...n_newton.shtml -Bible can no longer be on TV or radio -All campus Christian organizations cease to exist." 'Bible as hate speech' signed into law. Canadian measure said to 'chill' opposition to homosexual behavior. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38268 Granted, it's Canada, but can California and New York be far behind? -"It's almost impossible to keep children from seeing pornography" A lot of the things on broadcast and cable TV today were considered pornography 40 years ago. My kids, living in a very conservative home with very limited access to the coarseness of society, have been exposed to things I never imagined at their ages. This has resulted in my wife and I having to have detailed discussions no parent should have to be comfortable having with their kids. Add in the access of 500+ channels of satellite feeds containing a percentage of legitimate 100% pornography. Add in the internet where a minor doesn’t need to validate that he/she is 18 or older to access the most hardcore content. Add the fact that many of today’s R rated films would have been X rated films in the 1940’s and 50s. It’s is safe to say that access to pornography is easier, more accepted and more intrusive to a larger percentage of society than ever in the history of modern civilization. I doubt seriously, after four years of liberal dominance in all three branches of our government this trend will abate. -No more homeschooling A California appeals court has made the decision that only parents who hold teaching credentials can legally homeschool their children. "Parents do not have a constitutional right to home school their children,"Justice Walter Croskey wrote. The ruling was unanimous. The president of the Home School Legal Defense Association says the ruling would effectively ban homeschooling in the state. "California is now on the path to being the only state to deny the vast majority of homeschooling parents their fundamental right to teach their own children at home," he said in a statement. http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/335093.aspx -Al Qaeda takes over Iraq -4 terrorist bombings of American cities Why take my word for it? "Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate..." Senator Joe Biden. October 20, 2008 -Russia invades Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania ,Ukraine, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary and Bulgaria I'm not saying this will happen, but it would be hard to dismiss if Putin and company view American willingness to defend democracy as being soft. Apart from our willingness to use military force, it's kinda hard to argue about how tough and Democratic we are when our own govenment is confiscating the hard earned money of certain citizens and handing it over to others. -Iran nukes Tel Aviv Again, just one of many credible sources out there… TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - The president of Iran again lashed out at Israel on Friday and said it was "heading toward annihilation," just days after Tehran raised fears about its nuclear activities by saying it successfully enriched uranium for the first time. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called Israel a "permanent threat" to the Middle East that will "soon" be liberated. He also appeared to again question whether the Holocaust really happened. "Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation," Ahmadinejad said at the opening of a conference in support of the Palestinians. "The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm." Ahmadinejad provoked a world outcry in October when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map." http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1 -Oil $7/barrel If they actually mean barrel and not “gallon” this is the only bit of good news on this post. Thought I would pass this along for a good laugh. Laugh if you feel like it, there's enough truth to these assertions to cause some of us to consider them soberly. :thumb:
October 25, 200817 yr I underestimated in my first post. I think that certain arguments are plausible for most of the scenarios presented. I'm not stating they will happen, but they are hardly without evidence or precedent of possibility. The most objective scenario, is that the Supreme Court is currently made up of four conservatives, four liberals and one moderate that tends to swing both directions on various issues. A 4-4-1 ratio. Just looking at the ages of the current justices and taking the four oldest: John Paul Stevens is 88 years old, tends to vote liberally, has been on the court since 1975, and will likely retire during the next president’s term. Ruth Joan Bader Ginsburg is 75 years old, is the heart of the liberal wing of the court, and could retire or become incapable of serving during the next president’s term. Antonin Gregory Scalia is 72, is the core of the conservative wing of the court, and could retire or become incapable of serving during the next president’s term. Anthony McLeod Kennedy is 72, tends to be the swing vote on the court leaning liberal on social issues, and could retire or become incapable of serving during the next president’s term. Should two liberals, one conservative and one moderate retire and be replaced during an Obama term with a filibuster proof Congress, they will surely be replaced by four liberals, thereby bumping the court to a 6-3 ratio in favor of the liberals. John Hemstreet -- an alcoholic, former Boy Scout leader, former priest and convicted child molester -- told WorldNetDaily he is an example of the type of person who should be permitted to be a Boy Scout leader. Indeed, he said he was a great scoutmaster. Hemstreet says the Boy Scouts of America should not prevent homosexuals from serving as leaders or members. He was not hesitant to admit his past problems and said it was appropriate for him to be a scoutmaster. "The thing that I did seven years ago is a horrendous thing. I'm not denying that. Nor am I denying that I did it. I was arrested. I was arraigned. I did go to court. I was sentenced. I served my time and I am off probation," explained Hemstreet. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=13203 Using parliamentary procedures to their advantage, members of the Congressional Scouting Caucus last night essentially defeated a bill aimed at punishing the Boy Scouts of America for the organization's ban on homosexual leaders. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=13209 The BSA won a major victory June 28. The U.S. Supreme Court reversed the decision of the New Jersey Supreme Court -- a court order that would have forced BSA to accept gay Scout leaders. The BSA has a national policy that forbids homosexual Scouts or homosexual Scout leaders from membership in the private organization. The successful appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court was expected to end the debate, but the Cozzas have clearly stated they plan to go to war with Boy Scouts until they get their way. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=13201 The Supreme Court vote was 5-4 in favor of the scouts... does anyone honestly not believe that a 6-3 liberal court would rule differently? This is just one article of many easily accessed online. From the article: Teaching Kindergarten Kids About 'Human Differences' and Homosexuality Isn't 'Easy' in Newton MassNews Staff April 17, 2003 It hasn't been easy teaching children about homosexuality in the Newton schools because many parents are not happy with the plan, a social worker told the attendees at one of the Fistgate sessions held this year at Tufts University. "I work in the Newton public schools, and a lot of times it can be a very reactionary group, and it has not been easy at all," said Laura Perkins, who is a social worker in the schools. Her session at Fistgate 2003 was about introducing six-year-olds to homosexual concepts. She shared books and sample lesson plans. The session was titled, "Developing Lessons that Help Young Students Understand Human Differences." "What I do is to go into classrooms and teach kids about respect for human differences and to teach social skills lessons," she said, adding, "I have been asked to train new teachers in how to do some of these lessons. The new teachers are being trained to do this." http://www.massnews.com/2003_Edition...n_newton.shtml 'Bible as hate speech' signed into law. Canadian measure said to 'chill' opposition to homosexual behavior. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38268 Granted, it's Canada, but can California and New York be far behind? A lot of the things on broadcast and cable TV today were considered pornography 40 years ago. My kids, living in a very conservative home with very limited access to the coarseness of society, have been exposed to things I never imagined at their ages. This has resulted in my wife and I having to have detailed discussions no parent should have to be comfortable having with their kids. Add in the access of 500+ channels of satellite feeds containing a percentage of legitimate 100% pornography. Add in the internet where a minor doesn’t need to validate that he/she is 18 or older to access the most hardcore content. Add the fact that many of today’s R rated films would have been X rated films in the 1940’s and 50s. It’s is safe to say that access to pornography is easier, more accepted and more intrusive to a larger percentage of society than ever in the history of modern civilization. I doubt seriously, after four years of liberal dominance in all three branches of our government this trend will abate. A California appeals court has made the decision that only parents who hold teaching credentials can legally homeschool their children. "Parents do not have a constitutional right to home school their children,"Justice Walter Croskey wrote. The ruling was unanimous. The president of the Home School Legal Defense Association says the ruling would effectively ban homeschooling in the state. "California is now on the path to being the only state to deny the vast majority of homeschooling parents their fundamental right to teach their own children at home," he said in a statement. http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/335093.aspx Why take my word for it? "Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate..." Senator Joe Biden. October 20, 2008 I'm not saying this will happen, but it would be hard to dismiss if Putin and company view American willingness to defend democracy as being soft. Apart from our willingness to use military force, it's kinda hard to argue about how tough and Democratic we are when our own govenment is confiscating the hard earned money of certain citizens and handing it over to others. Again, just one of many credible sources out there… TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - The president of Iran again lashed out at Israel on Friday and said it was "heading toward annihilation," just days after Tehran raised fears about its nuclear activities by saying it successfully enriched uranium for the first time. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called Israel a "permanent threat" to the Middle East that will "soon" be liberated. He also appeared to again question whether the Holocaust really happened. "Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation," Ahmadinejad said at the opening of a conference in support of the Palestinians. "The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm." Ahmadinejad provoked a world outcry in October when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map." http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1 If they actually mean barrel and not “gallon” this is the only bit of good news on this post. Laugh if you feel like it, there's enough truth to these assertions to cause some of us to consider them soberly. :thumb: NICE:thumb:
October 25, 200817 yr Laugh if you feel like it, there's enough truth to these assertions to cause some of us to consider them soberly. :thumb::thumb: The threat of an Obama should be sobering for all hard working Americans.
October 25, 200817 yr I would put most of that letter in the "chicken little" category, but I would like to clarify something regarding the Boy Scouts. First, adults don't share tents with boys. Period. Second, scout leadership is ALWAYS two deep. Adult scout leaders are never alone with the boys. Third, there is a difference between being homosexual and being a child molester. I don't understand people that use fear and ignorance to lump the two together.
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