Why must it be assumed that those responsible for the riots necessarily would be the Obama supporters--thus making the "Obama haters" happy? I doubt that there's anyone (especially on this board) that would be happy about rioting.

 

 

 

 

 

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First, I'll state again, that I don't believe there will be riots.

 

Second, no matter who starts the riots, if Obama wins, the "haters" will say "I told you so". And if he loses and there are riots, the "haters" will say "I told you so". I don't remember any election where there was such a pure hatred toward a candidate. Scorn...yes. But the what I get from those who are opposed to the potential election of Obama as president transcends mere scorn and disagreement. I'll stop there, but with this last thought....this is NOT about BGP members or posts here. I know many of you may not believe it, but I also live in the "real" world and have conversations out there as well. :lol: Try not to take everything so personally. :lol:

First, I'll state again, that I don't believe there will be riots.

 

Second, no matter who starts the riots, if Obama wins, the "haters" will say "I told you so". And if he loses and there are riots, the "haters" will say "I told you so". I don't remember any election where there was such a pure hatred toward a candidate. Scorn...yes. But the what I get from those who are opposed to the potential election of Obama as president transcends mere scorn and disagreement. I'll stop there, but with this last thought....this is NOT about BGP members or posts here. I know many of you may not believe it, but I also live in the "real" world and have conversations out there as well. :lol: Try not to take everything so personally. :lol:

 

How quickly one forgets. I'd say the liberal hate for Bush in 04 far exceeds any hate for Obama this year.

First, I'll state again, that I don't believe there will be riots.

 

Second, no matter who starts the riots, if Obama wins, the "haters" will say "I told you so". And if he loses and there are riots, the "haters" will say "I told you so". I don't remember any election where there was such a pure hatred toward a candidate. Scorn...yes. But the what I get from those who are opposed to the potential election of Obama as president transcends mere scorn and disagreement. I'll stop there, but with this last thought....this is NOT about BGP members or posts here. I know many of you may not believe it, but I also live in the "real" world and have conversations out there as well. :lol: Try not to take everything so personally. :lol:

I agree completely. :thumb:

I was logging on to P&R to post this thread after my drive in to work this morning.

 

One of the local hip-hop stations here in Atlanta was discussing this and took callers and I was shocked to hear a couple callers dance around the thought of justifying it.

Are we having arguments as to whether or not riots will happen? Is this supposed to sway voters? Does this argument have any political philosophy, statistics, or substance-based arguments in it? Will anything productive come out of this argument? Are people going to become stronger in their own viewpoints (as well as seeing opposing perspectives) on their thoughts about post-election riots involving a minority candidate?

I was logging on to P&R to post this thread after my drive in to work this morning.

 

One of the local hip-hop stations here in Atlanta was discussing this and took callers and I was shocked to hear a couple callers dance around the thought of justifying it.

 

 

Can you elaborate? What possible reasons could justify a riot (other than out-and-out injustice)

Can you elaborate? What possible reasons could justify a riot (other than out-and-out injustice)

 

The callers were noting how it would be a monumentous occasion and likened it to professional sporting event celebrations as well as a caller who said a time as significant as this would be more than reason to celebrate in the street as masses to show uniformity... there was never a single caller who out and out said "I have no problem with people rioting", but they were more or less giving reasons why it could happen in relation to other "riots" coming as the result of something positive happening.

Can you elaborate? What possible reasons could justify a riot (other than out-and-out injustice)

Out-and-out injustice would not justify a riot. That is what our courts are for. Nothing justifies riots and nothing justifies not holding the rioters accountable for their crimes.

Second, no matter who starts the riots, if Obama wins, the "haters" will say "I told you so". And if he loses and there are riots, the "haters" will say "I told you so". I don't remember any election where there was such a pure hatred toward a candidate. Scorn...yes. But the what I get from those who are opposed to the potential election of Obama as president transcends mere scorn and disagreement. I'll stop there, but with this last thought....this is NOT about BGP members or posts here. I know many of you may not believe it, but I also live in the "real" world and have conversations out there as well. :lol: Try not to take everything so personally. :lol:

You seem to feel that there is some sort of "hatred" that is blinding people who aren't buying into the far-left Obama agenda. I think that's an approach more common to people on the extreme ends of the spectrum. It's like, "Well if you don't agree with me, you're just a bigot, or a hater, or have some kind of self-serving agenda."

 

But maybe it just has to do with the fact that people don't happen to like what a candidate stands for. Maybe they don't agree with his policies. Maybe they see another candidate as infinitely more experienced and better qualified.

 

I think it's wrong to just dismiss those that don't agree with me as being driven by hatred. Oh sure, there are a few like that; that's just the way the world is. But I don't think this election is any different than any other election in that respect. Obviously, race isn't too big of a problem; Obama is way out in front--and that's across racial lines.

 

If you want to talk about hatred, let's look at the hatred that has been aimed at President Bush for the past eight years. Look at Michael Moore, Keith Oberman, Bill Maher, or anyone who has ever held a job in Hollywood. And some of it (despite what many here like to believe) is undeserved. After all, we do have a Democratically controlled Congress that has to accept their share of the responsibility.

 

So let's not get carried away and suggest that this campaign is any different from every other campaign of the past. The only thing that is new is one candidate's race. That's one single reason why someone might not like a candidate. They might not like that he is black...or that he's white. But there are lots of single reasons people find to not like a candidate. Race is just another on the list.

 

Hatred exists in this world, and it most certainly isn't exclusive to, nor especially pronounced in, those who support John McCain. That is just simply unfair stereotyping.

No riots! darn that means I can't wear my daishiki and not yell burn baby burn. :irked:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well I would grow a afro again but it would like Larry's of the three stooges.

Edited October 24, 200817 yr by nWo

No riots! darn that means I can't wear my daishiki and not yell burn baby burn. :irked:

 

 

Well I would grow a afro again but it would like Larry's of the three stooges.

You've been watching too many movies. :lol:

 

Do you remember when "Det. Harris" (Ron Glass) from Barney Miller was on All in the Family as a sort of hippie guy? I pictured you as that guy when you said that.

Edited October 24, 200817 yr by nWo

You seem to feel that there is some sort of "hatred" that is blinding people who aren't buying into the far-left Obama agenda. I think that's an approach more common to people on the extreme ends of the spectrum. It's like, "Well if you don't agree with me, you're just a bigot, or a hater, or have some kind of self-serving agenda."

 

But maybe it just has to do with the fact that people don't happen to like what a candidate stands for. Maybe they don't agree with his policies. Maybe they see another candidate as infinitely more experienced and better qualified.

 

I think it's wrong to just dismiss those that don't agree with me as being driven by hatred. Oh sure, there are a few like that; that's just the way the world is. But I don't think this election is any different than any other election in that respect. Obviously, race isn't too big of a problem; Obama is way out in front--and that's across racial lines.

 

If you want to talk about hatred, let's look at the hatred that has been aimed at President Bush for the past eight years. Look at Michael Moore, Keith Oberman, Bill Maher, or anyone who has ever held a job in Hollywood. And some of it (despite what many here like to believe) is undeserved. After all, we do have a Democratically controlled Congress that has to accept their share of the responsibility.

 

So let's not get carried away and suggest that this campaign is any different from every other campaign of the past. The only thing that is new is one candidate's race. That's one single reason why someone might not like a candidate. They might not like that he is black...or that he's white. But there are lots of single reasons people find to not like a candidate. Race is just another on the list.

 

Hatred exists in this world, and it most certainly isn't exclusive to, nor especially pronounced in, those who support John McCain. That is just simply unfair stereotyping.

 

 

First of all, I'm not carried away with anything. But if you don't think there are some people who HATE Obama, you haven't been out and about much. My comments have nothing to do with race. As many have stated, they have many other reasons for their dislike of Obama. There are even those that would LOVE to see riots, as it would emphasize the apparent "heathen"ness of those who support Obama.

 

 

You can try and project whatever thoughts you think I may be thinking into my posts. But, I said exactly what I mean. And I have no qualms about the veracity of my comments, based on my own experience.

First, I'll state again, that I don't believe there will be riots.

 

Second, no matter who starts the riots, if Obama wins, the "haters" will say "I told you so". And if he loses and there are riots, the "haters" will say "I told you so". I don't remember any election where there was such a pure hatred toward a candidate. Scorn...yes. But the what I get from those who are opposed to the potential election of Obama as president transcends mere scorn and disagreement. I'll stop there, but with this last thought....this is NOT about BGP members or posts here. I know many of you may not believe it, but I also live in the "real" world and have conversations out there as well. :lol: Try not to take everything so personally. :lol:

I can't stand the man, but I don't hate him. If there are riots, you'd better believe I'll say I told you so, just as you will tell me I told you so if there are no riots. That doesn’t mean I want riots.

You seem to feel that there is some sort of "hatred" that is blinding people who aren't buying into the far-left Obama agenda. I think that's an approach more common to people on the extreme ends of the spectrum. It's like, "Well if you don't agree with me, you're just a bigot, or a hater, or have some kind of self-serving agenda."

 

But maybe it just has to do with the fact that people don't happen to like what a candidate stands for. Maybe they don't agree with his policies. Maybe they see another candidate as infinitely more experienced and better qualified.

 

I think it's wrong to just dismiss those that don't agree with me as being driven by hatred. Oh sure, there are a few like that; that's just the way the world is. But I don't think this election is any different than any other election in that respect. Obviously, race isn't too big of a problem; Obama is way out in front--and that's across racial lines.

 

If you want to talk about hatred, let's look at the hatred that has been aimed at President Bush for the past eight years. Look at Michael Moore, Keith Oberman, Bill Maher, or anyone who has ever held a job in Hollywood. And some of it (despite what many here like to believe) is undeserved. After all, we do have a Democratically controlled Congress that has to accept their share of the responsibility.

 

So let's not get carried away and suggest that this campaign is any different from every other campaign of the past. The only thing that is new is one candidate's race. That's one single reason why someone might not like a candidate. They might not like that he is black...or that he's white. But there are lots of single reasons people find to not like a candidate. Race is just another on the list.

 

Hatred exists in this world, and it most certainly isn't exclusive to, nor especially pronounced in, those who support John McCain. That is just simply unfair stereotyping.

Excellent, excellent, excellent post!!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Out-and-out injustice would not justify a riot. That is what our courts are for. Nothing justifies riots and nothing justifies not holding the rioters accountable for their crimes.

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