5 Pages later... Here's my take:

From the Boy's Perspective: The teenage boy knew the risk and decided it was worth it. I would probably have decided the same thing if I were him.

 

From the Girl's Father's Perspective: While there is no excuse for being clueless to the behavior for a year, if someone sneaks into my house with my daughter or without with intent to do things to my daughter (who is a minor) that I do not approve of I will go to whatever means necessary to prevent the problem from happening now or ever again.

 

From the Boy's Father's Perspective: Son, you're grounded and someday if you are lucky enough to have a wife and daughter I hope you will protect them as vigerously as this man protected his.

 

From my perspective. I'd have grabbed whatever was the closest object and swung to harm the boy. I'd have contacted the authority to report the tresspass. I'd have contacted the boy's parents to inform them as to what has happened. I'd take my daughter and she would not see the light of day for 6 months. No phone. No computer. No anything but school work and family time. Also probably some education about sex from a third party so she might better know the risks involved in making grown up decisions.

 

From the Court's Perspective: Not guilty by reason of mental defect... We will do crazy things to protect our kids. If ever there was a case of temporary insanity - it would happen to me in a situation like this.

 

 

Good discussion....

 

From the Court's Perspective: Not guilty by reason of mental defect... We will do crazy things to protect our kids. If ever there was a case of temporary insanity - it would happen to me in a situation like this.

 

 

 

Part of the reason that we have laws is to prevent self-help and self-made remedies.

 

One of the worst things that could happen to this country is if we decide to give everyone the power to deal with their problems as they see fit. The father did just that, and I have full confidence that the courts will handle this appropriately, even though it seems to be the minority opinion of those with children.

 

FWIW, to plead insanity, don't you have to be placed in a mental institution for a period of time? That's assuming the insanity defense actually works.

Problems that happen under the man's own roof are seen differently than problems that happen elsewhere. When you come on my land the rules change. If the girl's father went and hunted down this young man it would be a different story. To chase him off by whatever means necessary while he was an unwelcomed and unwanted guest in this man's house makes a big difference.

 

I think all that has to happen for temporary insanity is that a doctor says you're no longer a threat to society. All in all, to protect my daughter, my family, and my house from something - I'd serve the time if a jury found me guilty. And I'd do it again in a heartbeat if I felt I needed to.

I can't believe this thread is still going, over 200 replies. WOW! :lol:

You're probably the same guy that goes to school when your kid gets in trouble to jump on the teacher. The kid knows he is taking a chance of getting caught. He better be ready to face the consequences. And thank The Good Lord I'm not the one that found him.

 

That's a rather large assumption isn't it? Maybe the girl hid this from her dad b/c she thought he was crazy enough to beat her boyfriend up w/ a pipe. Again, if I'm the teenage boy I would be doing the same thing. If I'm his dad me and the girl's dad are having an unpleasant meeting.

Problems that happen under the man's own roof are seen differently than problems that happen elsewhere. When you come on my land the rules change. If the girl's father went and hunted down this young man it would be a different story. To chase him off by whatever means necessary while he was an unwelcomed and unwanted guest in this man's house makes a big difference.

 

 

Seen differently by whom?

 

The current view of the courts is that the use of deadly force or force likely to cause serious bodily harm is not justified unless the intruder threatens the occupants' safety, by committing or intending to commit a dangerous felony on the property. Additionally, the homeowner may not eject a non-threatening trespasser or invited guest when doing so would subject that person to serious physical harm.

 

Likewise, the use of mechanical devices intended to inflict serious injury or death to protect property is severely discouraged by the courts. Such force, even when inflicted personally by an individual defending property, would be unlawful, unless another privilege, such as the right of self-defense against deadly force, was implicated.

 

Indeed, there is increasing authority, including the Model Penal Code in the criminal context, which holds that mechanical devices which are intended to inflict death or serious bodily injury are never justifiable. This latter position reflects the public policy concern that such devices are too hazardous to the innocent and lack the potential to provide the requisite warning to a dangerous intruder and thereby insure that deadly force was necessary.

5 Pages later... Here's my take:

From the Boy's Perspective: The teenage boy knew the risk and decided it was worth it. I would probably have decided the same thing if I were him.

 

From the Girl's Father's Perspective: While there is no excuse for being clueless to the behavior for a year, if someone sneaks into my house with my daughter or without with intent to do things to my daughter (who is a minor) that I do not approve of I will go to whatever means necessary to prevent the problem from happening now or ever again.

 

From the Boy's Father's Perspective: Son, you're grounded and someday if you are lucky enough to have a wife and daughter I hope you will protect them as vigerously as this man protected his.

 

From my perspective. I'd have grabbed whatever was the closest object and swung to harm the boy. I'd have contacted the authority to report the tresspass. I'd have contacted the boy's parents to inform them as to what has happened. I'd take my daughter and she would not see the light of day for 6 months. No phone. No computer. No anything but school work and family time. Also probably some education about sex from a third party so she might better know the risks involved in making grown up decisions.

 

From the Court's Perspective: Not guilty by reason of mental defect... We will do crazy things to protect our kids. If ever there was a case of temporary insanity - it would happen to me in a situation like this.

 

 

Good discussion....

 

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What was the father supposed to do? Ask the boy to come downstairs and have a beer? Apologize for interrupting and quietly close the door? Come on, there was a naked boy in his 14-year old daughter's bedroom!

 

I hope the girl's parents crack down on her, and I hope the boy's parents supervise their son more.

 

Sadly, in this day and age I wouldn't be suprised to hear that the boy's parents file a lawsuit.

 

Moral of this story: If you're a teenage boy and you don't want to get shot/bludgeoned with a heavy instrument, keep your clothes on when you're in your girlfriend's parents' house.

What was the father supposed to do? Ask the boy to come downstairs and have a beer? Apologize for interrupting and quietly close the door? Come on, there was a naked boy in his 14-year old daughter's bedroom!

 

I hope the girl's parents crack down on her, and I hope the boy's parents supervise their son more.

 

Sadly, in this day and age I wouldn't be suprised to hear that the boy's parents file a lawsuit.

 

Moral of this story: If you're a teenage boy and you don't want to get shot/bludgeoned with a heavy instrument, keep your clothes on when you're in your girlfriend's parents' house.

 

Good point! In over 200 posts, it has been repeated time and time again how negligent and uncaring that the girl's father had to be to not know that the boy had been in the house multiple times. What about the parents of the boy? Aren't they just as guilty not knowing that their son isn't home multiple times?

Good point! In over 200 posts, it has been repeated time and time again how negligent and uncaring that the girl's father had to be to not know that the boy had been in the house multiple times. What about the parents of the boy? Aren't they just as guilty not knowing that their son isn't home multiple times?

 

Maybe they didn't know that the girl didn't tell her parents about him. People are doing a lot of assuming. Maybe the boy's parents had met the girl and had her over at their house in the last year.

Good point! In over 200 posts, it has been repeated time and time again how negligent and uncaring that the girl's father had to be to not know that the boy had been in the house multiple times. What about the parents of the boy? Aren't they just as guilty not knowing that their son isn't home multiple times?

 

Sure.

Good point! In over 200 posts, it has been repeated time and time again how negligent and uncaring that the girl's father had to be to not know that the boy had been in the house multiple times. What about the parents of the boy? Aren't they just as guilty not knowing that their son isn't home multiple times?

 

Perhaps it is a sexist view, but I spend more time worrying about where my daughter is and what she is doing than my boys.

 

Now, thanks to this thread, I have to worry about her in the middle of the night too!

 

Is there no rest for us poor old parents?

Maybe they didn't know that the girl didn't tell her parents about him. People are doing a lot of assuming. Maybe the boy's parents had met the girl and had her over at their house in the last year.

 

Wouldn't good, interested, involved parents have called the girls parents to make sure that they were okay with the "sleep over"?

Perhaps it is a sexist view, but I spend more time worrying about where my daughter is and what she is doing than my boys.

 

Now, thanks to this thread, I have to worry about her in the middle of the night too! Is there no rest for us poor old parents?

 

:lol: Poor thing. Keep your lead pipe handy.

 

J/K

Has anyone on here ever had anyone invade their house? Not being invited by the homeowner is that in my eyes. I had someone break into my house while we were at church. Didn't know he had broken in, just knew someone was upstairs and both stepsons were with their father. I went upstairs with a loaded double barrel shotgun, he heard me coming and jumped out a second story window. Don't have a daughter, but was protecting my property. I really don't know what would've happened had I found a naked boy I didn't know in my daughters bedroom. As far as that goes even if I knew him I don't really know what my reaction would be. Not good for him I could assure you.