Wouldn't good, interested, involved parents have called the girls parents to make sure that they were okay with the "sleep over"?

 

Good chance the parents of the boy thought he was home asleep too. Sometimes odd things happen after parents go to sleep.:fire:

5 Pages later... Here's my take:

From the Boy's Perspective: The teenage boy knew the risk and decided it was worth it. I would probably have decided the same thing if I were him.

 

From the Girl's Father's Perspective: While there is no excuse for being clueless to the behavior for a year, if someone sneaks into my house with my daughter or without with intent to do things to my daughter (who is a minor) that I do not approve of I will go to whatever means necessary to prevent the problem from happening now or ever again.

 

From the Boy's Father's Perspective: Son, you're grounded and someday if you are lucky enough to have a wife and daughter I hope you will protect them as vigerously as this man protected his.

 

From my perspective. I'd have grabbed whatever was the closest object and swung to harm the boy. I'd have contacted the authority to report the tresspass. I'd have contacted the boy's parents to inform them as to what has happened. I'd take my daughter and she would not see the light of day for 6 months. No phone. No computer. No anything but school work and family time. Also probably some education about sex from a third party so she might better know the risks involved in making grown up decisions.

 

From the Court's Perspective: Not guilty by reason of mental defect... We will do crazy things to protect our kids. If ever there was a case of temporary insanity - it would happen to me in a situation like this.

 

 

Good discussion....

 

I certainly can't argue with any of this.:thumb:

Good chance the parents of the boy thought he was home asleep too. Sometimes odd things happen after parents go to sleep.:fire:

Reminds me of a little trick I used to pull on my dad when I'd sneak out. I'd call the house and when he answered I would act like I was in my room answering the phone. He'd yell at me for a minute about getting calls at a late hour, I'd apologize and he would go back to sleep. Worked like a charm...

What was the father supposed to do? Ask the boy to come downstairs and have a beer? Apologize for interrupting and quietly close the door? Come on, there was a naked boy in his 14-year old daughter's bedroom!

 

I hope the girl's parents crack down on her, and I hope the boy's parents supervise their son more.

 

Sadly, in this day and age I wouldn't be suprised to hear that the boy's parents file a lawsuit.

 

Moral of this story: If you're a teenage boy and you don't want to get shot/bludgeoned with a heavy instrument, keep your clothes on when you're in your girlfriend's parents' house.

!st bolded......You are correct and with some of these wako "good ol boy" syndrome judges they would win.:mad:

2nd blded........Ya think?? I cannot believe the "set of" lets say of some of these teenagers today.

Don't get me wrong, I in no way, shape or form went around with a halo over my head when I was that age and certainly got into my share of stuff. I will say that there were distinct lines (and everyone knew them) that you just did not cross. Sneaking into a girls bedroom window with her parents at home and likely asleep in another bedroom very close by would definately had been one of those lines not to cross. I mean...I am pretty sure that it would had been a given that I wasn't there to study . Now. as I said in another post I did have a girl sneak out of her bedroom window and meet me waiting in the car to go out, that was certainly stupid enough but imo not close to a ignorant as this was.

Good point! In over 200 posts, it has been repeated time and time again how negligent and uncaring that the girl's father had to be to not know that the boy had been in the house multiple times. What about the parents of the boy? Aren't they just as guilty not knowing that their son isn't home multiple times?

:thumb: Absolutely. They say kids are going to be kids and they are right but that doesn't mean the parents are supposed to be just as stupid and non caring. After all, they are the parents.

Reminds me of a little trick I used to pull on my dad when I'd sneak out. I'd call the house and when he answered I would act like I was in my room answering the phone. He'd yell at me for a minute about getting calls at a late hour, I'd apologize and he would go back to sleep. Worked like a charm...

 

I SOOOO can't wait until you and the Mrs. start having kids.......

I SOOOO can't wait until you and the Mrs. start having kids.......

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There's no doubt in my mind that she could top that...

Why a metal pipe? Who keeps a metal pipe by their bedside?:lol:

 

A father with a daughter like that! (Joking).

Wouldn't good, interested, involved parents have called the girls parents to make sure that they were okay with the "sleep over"?

 

How do you know it was a sleepover? Is there part of the article I'm missing?

I am late to the discussion, but this is an interesting thread. Several points to make:

 

1) I am extremely disappointed in the poster(s) that mentioned that they would then take a metal pipe to their OWN child after being part of a similar situation. This is child abuse.

 

2) The article mentions that the young man was standing naked on the girl's bed. How is the father supposed to know, as that point, that the male is a rapist or was invited? How is he supposed to determine age of the male at that point? How does he know that the young man has not threatened the girl with a weapon that he cannot see? (Perhaps a gun or knife that is hidden by sheets/discarded clothing) These are split second decisions that he must make and I think that he made the right decision in brandishing a weapon, using reasonable force (the boy did not have a broken skull, but required stitches) and defending those in his own home. In the same situation, I would do something similar. If I then had to face charges, so be it. It is better then making the wrong split second decision and reading a situation incorrectly (perhaps missing a weapon that my daughter is being threatened with) and someone losing their life.

 

3) Some posters have put more blame on the daughter then the young man. Some have even referenced that she was entertaining more then one man (this article mentions NOTHING about any other young men being involved) and being, shall we say, of "loose" morals. This is extremely unfair and perpetuates that it is okay for males to be promiscuous (the same poster didn't bring up the possibility of this young man perhaps visiting a multitude of young women) but females are to be looked down upon for the same thing. What a double standard!

 

Well said on 1 & 2. When I was reading these post I was troubled because I didn't know how I would or should respond. But I think you sum it up nicely.

 

As for the double standard, it is what it is. But double standards go both ways and women benefit from them more so than men for the most part. This one just happens to be everyone's #1 topic when double standards are mentioned.

 

BTW...I have two daughters, and they will fully understand the double standard part of life as soon as I feel they are old enough to have the talk.