Also, what time was it? It said morning, was it 4 am or was it 10 am or sometime in between? That makes a difference in the argument as well. If the dad was awakened by noises and was groggy and grabbed a weapon, then there is no premeditation at all.

The legal profession or the judicial system?

 

The legal profession.

Unbeknownst to the father--he said he did not even know she had a boyfriend.

 

Also true.

 

The fact that she had been seeing this guy for over a year in their house, without her father knowing could lead us to some important issues as well.

 

We do not know the entire story, and without all of the facts it is difficult to gauge what exactly happened.

It also mentions that the father didn't know the daughter had a boyfriend and did not know this young man at all.

 

It mentioned that the father saw a stranger standing naked on the bed.

 

What type of father wouldn't recognize his daughter's boyfriend standing naked on the bed? :confused: :lol:

Also true.

 

The fact that she had been seeing this guy for over a year in their house, without her father knowing could lead us to some important issues as well.

 

We do not know the entire story, and without all of the facts it is difficult to gauge what exactly happened.

 

:thumb:Which was my point exactly on the first page of this thread!

He was standing on the bed, not hiding.

 

If he wasn't sneaking and hiding, why didn't he just walk through the front door?

If he wasn't sneaking and hiding, why didn't he just walk through the front door?

 

Obviously I'm just guessing here, but I'd imagine he entered the house where his girlfriend asked him to.

 

And you know women and how they "ask" (tell) you things.

It mentioned that the father saw a stranger standing naked on the bed.

 

What type of father wouldn't recognize his daughter's boyfriend standing naked on the bed? :confused: :lol:

 

I don't know how the article (of I) can make it any clearer. The father DID NOT KNOW she had a boyfriend at all. I would assume that the kids kept the relationship hidden or that it was only a relationship at times.

I don't know how the article (of I) can make it any clearer. The father DID NOT KNOW she had a boyfriend at all. I would assume that the kids kept the relationship hidden or that it was only a relationship at times.

 

Or the father wasn't exactly interested in his child's life.

I don't know how the article (of I) can make it any clearer. The father DID NOT KNOW she had a boyfriend at all. I would assume that the kids kept the relationship hidden or that it was only a relationship at times.

 

Relax true, it's called sarcasm. Hence the multiple smilies at the end of my post.

Or the father wasn't exactly interested in his child's life.

 

I was thinking along the same lines, although "interested" may be too harsh of a word. How about "involved"?

 

Now we're arguing semantics.

Why a metal pipe? Who keeps a metal pipe by their bedside?:lol:

I have confirmed that a minor child does NOT have the right to invite anyone into a parent's house without consent.

 

:thumb: That's what I was thinking, "Without consent" is the key phrase, she would have to have had the parents permission.

 

At any rate, the metal pipe would have still had lodged in a very uncomfortable location of this boys anatomy along with requiring an emergeny room visit or a plummer to remove it and causing the boy to walk kind of funny for a very long time.

Why a metal pipe? Who keeps a metal pipe by their bedside?:lol:

 

:lol:

I pulled some pretty bad things off as a teenager! At the time it was all in fun.

Having a daughter now it makes me a nervous wreck thinking about her growing up! I try to do all the little things like church, read to her every night etc. She's only 4+1/2 but having 2 sisters myself and knowing how I along with all my friends were.... it makes me almost sick!