September 11, 200818 yr That you are questioning a person's faith based on nothing. I'm not questioning anyone's faith. I'm saying that the logic used to prove his Christianity in an earlier post is flawed. Obama supporters acted like his past and current affiliations should be ignored and that just isn't realistic.
September 11, 200818 yr I'm not questioning anyone's faith. I'm saying that the logic used to prove his Christianity in an earlier post is flawed. No. We are way beyond that, yet you continue insinuating that Obama is not a Christian but a Muslim. Obama is not a Christian, he is a Muslim because ____? I'll wait for your reply.
September 11, 200818 yr What would be the issue if he were? If he isn't then why have the discussion. I mean I convienced. He doesn't openly pray 5 times a day, he doesn't carry a rug with him everywhere he goes and he decorates a tree every December.
September 11, 200818 yr I'm not questioning anyone's faith. I'm saying that the logic used to prove his Christianity in an earlier post is flawed. Obama supporters acted like his past and current affiliations should be ignored and that just isn't realistic. We believe that his history is relevant...and that it supports his religious choice of Christianity.
September 11, 200818 yr If he isn't then why have the discussion. I mean I convienced. He doesn't openly pray 5 times a day, he doesn't carry a rug with him everywhere he goes and he decorates a tree every December. That one word says it all. You think he is secretly a Muslim. :lol: You really need to study up on the tenets of Islam and avoid the emails.
September 11, 200818 yr I've gotten so many e-mails this year about Obama supposedly being a Muslim and his lack of patriotism, etc. Most or all of them are scurrilous attacks that prey on people's fears. Those are just as bad as some of the far left's attacks on Palin. So I'm not the only one?!? I have a private email account, that gets pounded with only one type of spam - anti Obama ads. Some are funny, some re bizarre, and some are just plain scary. I've never had any other spam or any anti-McCain ads. Do you think the Bush administration gave out my email? :lol: Seriously though, the people that make or forward these things are probably pretty scary individuals. Makes you wonder.
September 11, 200818 yr I watched this today on the Internet and he did not address it like it was HIS MUSLIM FAITH, but from what people are attributing HIS MUSLIM FAITH. I won't vote Obama but he gets a pass on this.
September 11, 200818 yr Then how do we know anyone is a Christian? I kind of backed out of this thread because I had the judgmental finger pointed at me. I was going to explain, but I didn’t think anyone would listen. Jesus tells us we can tell if someone is true by their actions. Matthew 7:16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. I just can’t believe that someone who promotes the killing of innocent children is bearing good fruit. As for does he pray five times a day. I would hope so. I pray at least that many times a day. That does not make me a Muslim.
September 11, 200818 yr I watched this today on the Internet and he did not address it like it was HIS MUSLIM FAITH, but from what people are attributing HIS MUSLIM FAITH. I won't vote Obama but he gets a pass on this. You mean that something Obama said may have been taken out of context? Surely not ...
September 11, 200818 yr I wonder how many emails have been sent around telling everyone that westsider is a Catholic?:lol: :lol: :lol:
September 11, 200818 yr You mean that something Obama said may have been taken out of context? Surely not ... ABsolutely. Same as McCain jokingly answering RIck Warren's comment about a $ figure of who the rich is and him saying $5 million and adding that answering will be distorted and Obama himself doing exactly what McCain said would happen with his answer.
September 11, 200818 yr ABsolutely. Same as McCain jokingly answering RIck Warren's comment about a $ figure of who the rich is and him saying $5 million and adding that answering will be distorted and Obama himself doing exactly what McCain said would happen with his answer. Great point, LBC. You are exactly right about Obama taking McCain's $5 million comment out of context. I doubt that McCain will be running Obama's "Muslim faith" out of context but if he did it would be exactly the same thing that Obama did with McCain's joke about what he considered rich.
September 11, 200818 yr ABsolutely. Same as McCain jokingly answering RIck Warren's comment about a $ figure of who the rich is and him saying $5 million and adding that answering will be distorted and Obama himself doing exactly what McCain said would happen with his answer. You're right. I think it would have helped had McCain given a serious answer after his joking one. Less fuel.
September 11, 200818 yr You're right. I think it would have helped had McCain given a serious answer after his joking one. Less fuel.McCain made it clear that he was joking and did address the question seriously. Obama distorted the statement and ridiculed McCain's joke as if it was delivered as a serious response. Obama also distorted McCain's response on the house question. Obama ran ads for days ripping McCain for being out of touch because he wanted to accurate in his reponse rather than fast. I recall John Kerry claiming that he did not own any SUVs in response to a similar question. He later explained that his wife owned the SUVs. Had McCain given such a weasly answer, he would have rightly been ridiculed. Instead, he gave an honest answer for which he was unjustly ridiculed. Obama cannot claim the moral high ground when it comes to political ads. He set the tone early in this campaign and McCain has simply responded in kind. As I have said many times, Obama cannot win a mud fight with McCain.
September 11, 200818 yr McCain made it clear that he was joking and did address the question seriously. Obama distorted the statement and ridiculed McCain's joke as if it was delivered as a serious response. Obama also distorted McCain's response on the house question. Obama ran ads for days ripping McCain for being out of touch because he wanted to accurate in his reponse rather than fast. I recall John Kerry claiming that he did not own any SUVs in response to a similar question. He later explained that his wife owned the SUVs. Had McCain given such a weasly answer, he would have rightly been ridiculed. Instead, he gave an honest answer for which he was unjustly ridiculed. Obama cannot claim the moral high ground when it comes to political ads. He set the tone early in this campaign and McCain has simply responded in kind. As I have said many times, Obama cannot win a mud fight with McCain. So what was McCain's actual answer to the question? I don't remember him giving a figure. As for the political ads, which ones did Obama do first, before McCain "responded in kind"? I am asking because I don't remember.
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