I am talking about those in governmental housing.

Some are leeches bleeding off of others both through crime and governmental aid with no desire to get off of it.

Some are great people stuck in horrible situations.

Some are still trying to struggle and figure out which side they are going to.

 

And we should love and care for all of them.

 

"If a person asks for your coat, give them your shirt also"

Help implies they want to get out.

There is a good number that just wants their way paid.

 

She worked teaching summer school.

 

Church or family should be providing.

NOT GOVERNMENT.

 

Both of those have been pitiful failures in many regards with helping the community they are in.

 

If the church or family doesn't, then who does? Why should the government not help

 

We the people . . . establish justice (doing the right thing) . . .to promote the general welfare . . . secure the blessings of liberty

 

Sounds like the government helps a lot by its very nature.

RTS, I don't want to be negative here, but much of what is being posted here is elitist and prejudicial. The way to end the cycle of poverty and welfare dependence is not to segregate people on aid.

 

Section 8 isn't ruining the neighborhoods. Landlords who don't care or screen their tenents are.

This is just the same old pie-in-the-sky baloney that the liberal do-gooders like to throw around. These are people who have never had to deal with the effects themselves.

 

The way to end the cycle of poverty is to give people just as much help as they really need and to make that help the kind that leads them toward self-sufficiency--no more, and no less.

 

But I'll say no more, as it appears that RTS has this one well under control all by himself.

I'm sorry, RTS, but I stand by my statements. Section 8 is not the problem. The abusers are, and the landlords who don't ensure that their property is taken care of.

The problem is, that's the kind you usually get.

The absentee landlords don't have to care...so they don't. The tenents have no financial stake, and no roots in the community; so they often don't give a crap either.

This is just the same old pie-in-the-sky baloney that the liberal do-gooders like to throw around. These are people who have never had to deal with the effects themselves.

:lol: Seriously. You are way off base here. Louisville is doing away with their "projects" and moving the former residents into neighborhoods all around the city. Then new developments are mixed income, including Section 8, condos for sale and apartments at market value.

The way to end the cycle of poverty is to give people just as much help as they really need and to make that help the kind that leads them toward self-sufficiency--no more, and no less.

 

But I'll say no more, as it appears that RTS has this one well under control all by himself.

The problem is, that's the kind you usually get.

The absentee landlords don't have to care...so they don't. The tenents have no financial stake, and no roots in the community; so they often don't give a crap either.

 

 

The absentee landlords most certainly do have to care. There are laws, you know.

:lol: Seriously. You are way off base here. Louisville is doing away with their "projects" and moving the former residents into neighborhoods all around the city. Then new developments are mixed income, including Section 8, condos for sale and apartments at market value.

The problem with trying to put out fires by spreading them out is that sometimes you just end up with more big fires. I'm all for giving people a chance; but sticking other people with loser neighbors will NEVER be the best way to deal with the problem.

The absentee landlords most certainly do have to care. There are laws, you know.

No, they most certainly DO NOT have to care what their tenants do in and around the community. They don't live here and nothing says they have to (or can) control tenant behavior. Like someone else said, property owners love section 8, because it's guaranteed money in the bank.

And we should love and care for all of them.

 

"If a person asks for your coat, give them your shirt also"

 

And where does the command, to shake the dust off your feet and move on fit into your view?

If the church or family doesn't, then who does? Why should the government not help

 

We the people . . . establish justice (doing the right thing) . . .to promote the general welfare . . . secure the blessings of liberty

 

Sounds like the government helps a lot by its very nature.

 

The church should. If they are being the church Christ wants them to be.

 

I think the constitution guarantees a pursuit of happiness. NOT happiness itself.

 

Too many people want the government to provide them happiness not just the pursuit.

 

Give you an example. I was listening on the radio to the debate on pay to play in HS athletics.

 

One mom got on the radio and said it was ridiculous because the teens had other bills to pay. They had to pay for the cellular phone and couldn't afford to play athletics.

 

I am sorry, no sympathy there, from me. It is not like the cellular phone is food.

 

And before you say those who cannot afford food, would not have to pay to play. That would be taken care of for them.

My belief is that less money should be going to assistance and more to governmental jobs that can employ these people who are receiving assistance. Let them earn it instead of just getting it.

RTS is taking a very difficult unpopular stance.....but he is being honest. I too have worked hard to get a home in a good, safe neighborhood. I would not want to see my neighborhood become section 8.

 

 

No one is saying all poor people are criminals. However, lets face it, the more section 8 housing, the greater the crime in the area. It is what it is.

 

Now, who can HONESTLY answer his question. Would you want your next door neighbors to be in section 8 housing?

My belief is that less money should be going to assistance and more to governmental jobs that can employ these people who are receiving assistance. Let them earn it instead of just getting it.

 

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RTS is taking a very difficult unpopular stance.....but he is being honest. I too have worked hard to get a home in a good, safe neighborhood. I would not want to see my neighborhood become section 8.

 

 

No one is saying all poor people are criminals. However, lets face it, the more section 8 housing, the greater the crime in the area. It is what it is.

 

Now, who can HONESTLY answer his question. Would you want your next door neighbors to be in section 8 housing?

Right on. :thumb:

I can handle the Section 8ers.

I cannot handle the squirrels.

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