August 23, 200818 yr This whole thread is really funny. :lol: RTS and Birdsfan living in fear of their lives in the Fort Thomas ghetto. :lol: Anyone want to come up there and help them pickett? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
August 23, 200818 yr Author But enough about the 18th Century. :lol: You now better than that. German-Americans began moving into more ethnically-neutral neighborhoods further from downtown during and after World War I and World War II. At the same time, migrants from the South and Appalachia were drawn to Cincinnati by industrial employment, and began settling in the neighborhood. Over-the-Rhine was reconfigured as a working class neighborhood of day laborers. African-Americans fleeing the economic and social climate of the antebellum South became especially prevalent within the neighborhood. By the early twentieth century, the German ethnic population was no longer the major demographic of Over-the-Rhine. Just look at the decline in population in Over the Rhine over the years. 1900 - 44,475, 1960 - 30,000, 1970 - 15,025, 1980 - 11,914, 1990 - 9,572 and 2000 - 7,500. Why do you folks think that is?
August 23, 200818 yr Author OTR is a perfect example of what happens when longtime members of a community give up and move away when poorer folks move in rather than staying and fighting to preserve their neighborhood.Jim, when you can't stop the bleeding there's only one thing you can do.
August 23, 200818 yr Jim, when you can't stop the bleeding there's only one thing you can do.Boy would I love to reply to this. But.....not. :irked:
August 23, 200818 yr :lol: You now better than that. German-Americans began moving into more ethnically-neutral neighborhoods further from downtown during and after World War I and World War II.Man, I'm trying to be on your side; would you try not to use terms like "ethnically-neutral?" Work with me here!
August 23, 200818 yr Next thing you know those people are going to be on their sports teams.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::flame:
August 23, 200818 yr Next thing you know those people are going to be on their sports teams.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::flame: Oh! The travesty! :lol:
August 24, 200818 yr Author Next thing you know those people are going to be on their sports teams.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::flame: Oh! The travesty! :lol:What does any of this have to do with the thread? Kind of tells me you don't have an argument. :sssh:
August 24, 200818 yr What does any of this have to do with the thread? Kind of tells me you don't have an argument. :sssh: I don't have anything to argue. :lol: I'm both amused by this thread and concerned by some of the things I've seen posted here.
August 24, 200818 yr Author I don't have anything to argue. :lol: I'm both amused by this thread and concerned by some of the things I've seen posted here.I'm more concerned by the problems that Section 8 causes. I see nothing amusing about it. Its sad how many neighborhoods have been ruined by this quandary.
August 24, 200818 yr I'm more concerned by the problems that Section 8 causes. I see nothing amusing about it. Its sad how many neighborhoods have been ruined by this quandary. RTS, I don't want to be negative here, but much of what is being posted here is elitist and prejudicial. The way to end the cycle of poverty and welfare dependence is not to segregate people on aid. It won't work. Crimes should be dealt with no matter where they occur. Ideally, it doesn't happen in any neighborhood. But concentrating high volumes of the "bad seeds" in one area is exposing a higher volume of "good people in bad situations" to the criminal element and the liklihood that children will follow the wrong path rises, even if they're from good families. Section 8 isn't ruining the neighborhoods. Landlords who don't care or screen their tenents are. Attack the root. If a "drug house" develops, call the police, over and over. Talk to the landlord, take action. Sitting and waiting and bemoaning the introduction of Section 8 isn't helping. Nothing gets accomplished if action isn't taken.
August 24, 200818 yr Author RTS, I don't want to be negative here, but much of what is being posted here is elitist and prejudicial. The way to end the cycle of poverty and welfare dependence is not to segregate people on aid. It won't work. Crimes should be dealt with no matter where they occur. Ideally, it doesn't happen in any neighborhood. But concentrating high volumes of the "bad seeds" in one area is exposing a higher volume of "good people in bad situations" to the criminal element and the liklihood that children will follow the wrong path rises, even if they're from good families. Section 8 isn't ruining the neighborhoods. Landlords who don't care or screen their tenents are. Attack the root. If a "drug house" develops, call the police, over and over. Talk to the landlord, take action. Sitting and waiting and bemoaning the introduction of Section 8 isn't helping. Nothing gets accomplished if action isn't taken. RM, if it were only as simple as you make it sound. If it were that easy we wouldn't have the problem we have now in so many neighborhoods across this country. People have tried to take action to no avail in many of these neighborhoods, they are trying to take action in Colerain now, but I'd venture to say they will lose that battle. Like it or not, Section 8 is a real and growing problem.
August 24, 200818 yr What I still can't figure out is why all of the Christians on this site have not commented negatively about the attitudes posted. Comments on this thread are so anti-Christian it blows me away and I have yet to see a post from some of the scripture quoters condemning it.
August 24, 200818 yr Author What I still can't figure out is why all of the Christians on this site have not commented negatively about the attitudes posted. Comments on this thread are so anti-Christian it blows me away and I have yet to see a post from some of the scripture quoters condemning it.I'm a Christian and I'm the one that made most of the comments. What's so anti-Christian about not wanting your neighborhood turned into a crime ridden wreck like Section 8 has done time and time and time and time again?
August 24, 200818 yr What I still can't figure out is why all of the Christians on this site have not commented negatively about the attitudes posted. Comments on this thread are so anti-Christian it blows me away and I have yet to see a post from some of the scripture quoters condemning it. Why? Jesus said himself, you will always have the poor. I don't think poverty can be solved.
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