July 12, 200818 yr You're getting close. What we seem to be dancing around is the fact that there are a lot of white Americans, whether they be blue-collar or not, whether they support Hillary Clinton or not, who will not be able to find theselves to pull the lever for a person of color. And it wouldn't matter if indeed the candidate walked on water. Never mind it's not worth it.
July 12, 200818 yr Sounds an awful lot like the "GWB was sent from God" crap I used to hear a lot back in the day …
July 12, 200818 yr Author Sounds an awful lot like the "GWB was sent from God" crap I used to hear a lot back in the day …Not even close.
July 12, 200818 yr Not even close. How do you figure? It's the same ridiculous hyperbole, just kool-aid drinkers of a different political stripe doing it.
July 13, 200818 yr They may go more for Obama than you think, there are a lot of people with "white guilt" that will also vote for him so they can say they're not bigots. I've met more than my share of them. What ever happened to voting on issues? Nowadays, too many people vote for the wrong reasons. Age, color, looks, party affiliation, emotional attachment, etc... I agree wholeheartedly with the bolded. But unfortunately, I'm evidently meeting different folks than you are. I have yet to meet a single person who tells me that they're feeling guilty over oppression of persons of color, and that they intend to make reparations by voting for Obama. I have met people who tell me that they are wrestling with the notion of a person of color occupying The White House. I very seriously doubt that, when in the privacy of the voting booth, that the number of the former will equal the number of the latter.
July 13, 200818 yr I thought his mother was white and his father black. Would that not make him as much white as he is black? Yes. How do you know that he forgets he is half white? It's more everybody else then him, but he does call himself African American. Why not: "European-American"...?
July 13, 200818 yr I am still unclear. For a while there I was fairly convinced that I was not for the "change" that Obama was promising. But recently I see him moving to the center and I get the impression that he REALLY is a little closer to the center than he originally led on. Bottom line - I just don't know what Obama really wants. And that is not good. Probably will vote for McCain (even though I have SERIOUS reservations there as well) and may even stay home. The final alternative is to vote for Bob Barr. I watched an interview with Glenn Beck and found him to be legitimate and fairly inline with much of what I stand for. BUT, he has NO chance, so the vote = nothing.
July 13, 200818 yr While you are correct that some (especially some older voters) would never vote for him, there will be some who will vote for him no matter what, so it will balance out. I agree 110% with "oldrambler" in his above statement. Too me, it's all about Mr. Obama not having the experience nor voting record for me to support him. In light of the bolded part of your post, you schould change your user name to: thewiseoldguy.:thumb: Focus on the voting record of both candidates, not the rhetoric from the campaign stump, no matter how charismatic it may be, and each voter should have no problem deciding whom to vote for. If you do so and you are a liberal and agree with liberal philosophies, you'll vote for Obama. However, if you are a moderate or even a conservative, you'll vote for McCain. Its really pretty simple. Then again, that simple and true approach would mean the tv and radio political programs would be a lot shorter, which would mean a lot less advertising revenues for the tv and radio conglomerations that own the networks. Think they have a self interest motivating them to sensationalize every thing the two candidates do and say on the trail? I sure do.
July 13, 200818 yr In light of the bolded part of your post, you schould change your user name to: thewiseoldguy.:thumb: Focus on the voting record of both candidates, not the rhetoric from the campaign stump, no matter how charismatic it may be, and each voter should have no problem deciding whom to vote for. If you do so and you are a liberal and agree with liberal philosophies, you'll vote for Obama. However, if you are a moderate or even a conservative, you'll vote for McCain. Its really pretty simple. Then again, that simple and true approach would mean the tv and radio political programs would be a lot shorter, which would mean a lot less advertising revenues for the tv and radio conglomerations that own the networks. Think they have a self interest motivating them to sensationalize every thing the two candidates do and say on the trail? I sure do.:thumb:People who are having trouble deciding between McCain and Obama are paying too much attention to words and too little attention to deeds. There is a wide gulf between the voting records of these two candidates and there are not many voters whose own political philosophy is not much closer to one candidate or the other. There should be very, very few undecided voters at this point in the campaign.
July 13, 200818 yr :thumb:People who are having trouble deciding between McCain and Obama are paying too much attention to words and too little attention to deeds. There is a wide gulf between the voting records of these two candidates and there are not many voters whose own political philosophy is not much closer to one candidate or the other. There should be very, very few undecided voters at this point in the campaign. I sure hope so. Maybe both sides will realize that further advertising is pointless...
July 13, 200818 yr I sure hope so. Maybe both sides will realize that further advertising is pointless...The main point of political advertising is not to inform but to deceive. Those who depend on political advertisements to make voting decisions are fools and we have not shortage of fools in this country. That is why deep pockets and name recognition generally result in election day victories. Politicians are selling an image not their records.
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