July 8, 200818 yr Author Obama: 1. Oudsider; Change (20%) 2. Lack of Experience (13%) 3. Dishonest (9%) 4. Inspiring (8%) 5. Liberal (6%) 6,7. (Tie) Obama's Race (6%) ; Young (6%) 8. Not Likeable (5%) 9. Intelligent (4%) 10. Muslim (3%)
July 8, 200818 yr How about Next for both of them? Cause that's what I think most Americans are waiting for,,,,,,whomever's next. :thumb: Can't argue much with this.
July 8, 200818 yr Oh come on…its not like Obama is a 12 year old kid off the street. The term “rookie” is being applied rather loosely. An American President has a litany of staffers to aid in decision-making. I like the fact that he has vowed to open dialogue with countries we have chosen to ignore. Does McCain’s military experience guarantee him success? As an officer in the US Army, I can unequivocally say “no”. Being an O-6 does not unlock a special knack for being President. McCain is a great American, no doubt, but I have yet to make up my mind about him. I never said I was voting for Obama. And UKMustangFan- Yes, I believe him, just as I believe all things I find on the Internet and Wikipedia. They would never lie to me. Agree to disagree, I guess. You're totally missing the point, GunRunner. Look at his very small voting record. see how often he voted "present". As for vowing to open dialogue with countries we have chosen to ignore don't forget he also said without preconditions. With brilliant ideas like that, he might as well be a 12 year old kid off the street.
July 8, 200818 yr Why do I feel like I do about Obama? Obama is smart, but there is something about him that just gives me the willies. I opened up a copy of MrRk's Time magazine a few month ago and there was this picture of Obama and his wife right after they knew they had the nomination wrapped up. The look in their eyes and the look on their faces just gave me the chills and not in a good way. RebelK, you and I have disagreed on quite a few things in this forum but I think that we have mutual respect for one another, I will agree with you on most all of your post really but especially on the three points I saved here....... 1. I feel like I do bc I flat out don't trust the man, anything about him or the people that he surrounds himself with. 2. :thumb: I call it something else but "the willies" is good. 3. :thumb: Agreed, imo those people are dangerous. Now, enough about these stupid politics and a question about something that really matters, how have you been doing?
July 8, 200818 yr RebelK, you and I have disagreed on quite a few things in this forum but I think that we have mutual respect for one another, I will agree with you on most all of your post really but especially on the three points I saved here....... 1. I feel like I do bc I flat out don't trust the man, anything about him or the people that he surrounds himself with. 2. :thumb: I call it something else but "the willies" is good. 3. :thumb: Agreed, imo those people are dangerous. Now, enough about these stupid politics and a question about something that really matters, how have you been doing? We actually agree more than we seem to disagree:thumb: I have been doing really well. I finish my 2 week of rehab tomorrow and I love it. I am truly feeling better than I have felt in a long long time. Oh I still have places that hurt like heck and I still get tired but other than that....I can't and won't complain. How is Mrs OR and how are you?
July 9, 200818 yr You're totally missing the point, GunRunner. Look at his very small voting record. see how often he voted "present". As for vowing to open dialogue with countries we have chosen to ignore don't forget he also said without preconditions. With brilliant ideas like that, he might as well be a 12 year old kid off the street. So a voting record is the only measure of a man? Well heck, lets get Robert Byrd to run. That guy has been a senator for 50 years. Think of all the votes! Think of all the experience! All jokes aside, I’m not trying to change your mind. I’m simply trying to say that I’m leaning towards Obama because I think he understands the interconnectedness of today’s political climate. I think he understands the 24 hour news cycle, and I think he realizes that the era of great power politics is over. We, as a nation, can no longer afford to snub other nations (no matter how small they may be). Thus, I see nothing wrong with opening up dialogue with countries like Iran. Doing so does not make us weaker; it simply shows that we are willing to at least give governments a chance.
July 9, 200818 yr We actually agree more than we seem to disagree:thumb: I have been doing really well. I finish my 2 week of rehab tomorrow and I love it. I am truly feeling better than I have felt in a long long time. Oh I still have places that hurt like heck and I still get tired but other than that....I can't and won't complain. How is Mrs OR and how are you? :thumb: On our agreeing on more and more.That imo has to do with respect more than anything. No, I have not become Hillary fan but I do like her better than the Dem choosen to run for president (that's didn't take a lot :lol:). If you are still hurting in places then stay out of those places...... (I know that was bad but I had to). As for me and the Mrs. I'll send you a pm, some others smay want to talk about such boring matters like this election.
July 9, 200818 yr So a voting record is the only measure of a man? Well heck, lets get Robert Byrd to run. That guy has been a senator for 50 years. Think of all the votes! Think of all the experience! All jokes aside, I’m not trying to change your mind. I’m simply trying to say that I’m leaning towards Obama because I think he understands the interconnectedness of today’s political climate. I think he understands the 24 hour news cycle, and I think he realizes that the era of great power politics is over. We, as a nation, can no longer afford to snub other nations (no matter how small they may be). Thus, I see nothing wrong with opening up dialogue with countries like Iran. Doing so does not make us weaker; it simply shows that we are willing to at least give governments a chance. Excellent post.
July 9, 200818 yr So a voting record is the only measure of a man? Well heck, lets get Robert Byrd to run. That guy has been a senator for 50 years. Think of all the votes! Think of all the experience! All jokes aside, I’m not trying to change your mind. I’m simply trying to say that I’m leaning towards Obama because I think he understands the interconnectedness of today’s political climate. I think he understands the 24 hour news cycle, and I think he realizes that the era of great power politics is over. We, as a nation, can no longer afford to snub other nations (no matter how small they may be). Thus, I see nothing wrong with opening up dialogue with countries like Iran. Doing so does not make us weaker; it simply shows that we are willing to at least give governments a chance. I don't think he understands much. Personally, if you're thinking a vote for Obama is going to bring about some sort of change, I think you're sorely mistaken. The fact of the matter is, when one party is out of office, they preach the opposite of what's being done, but once they take office, nothing really changes. That's the unfortunate way our political system works, and as much as he wants people to believe he will, Obama is not going to change that. I have no problem with us talking to other nations, but to open up talks with Iran, a country who says they are the ones to start the Armaggedon, is not the way to do it, especially with no preconditions.
July 9, 200818 yr So a voting record is the only measure of a man? Well heck, lets get Robert Byrd to run. That guy has been a senator for 50 years. Think of all the votes! Think of all the experience! All jokes aside, I’m not trying to change your mind. I’m simply trying to say that I’m leaning towards Obama because I think he understands the interconnectedness of today’s political climate. I think he understands the 24 hour news cycle, and I think he realizes that the era of great power politics is over. We, as a nation, can no longer afford to snub other nations (no matter how small they may be). Thus, I see nothing wrong with opening up dialogue with countries like Iran. Doing so does not make us weaker; it simply shows that we are willing to at least give governments a chance. What else do we have to go on with this guy? What do you know about him? I'll wait for you to share. You too, Original Rookie and TB&G.
July 9, 200818 yr I don't think he understands much. Personally, if you're thinking a vote for Obama is going to bring about some sort of change, I think you're sorely mistaken. The fact of the matter is, when one party is out of office, they preach the opposite of what's being done, but once they take office, nothing really changes. That's the unfortunate way our political system works, and as much as he wants people to believe he will, Obama is not going to change that. I have no problem with us talking to other nations, but to open up talks with Iran, a country who says they are the ones to start the Armaggedon, is not the way to do it, especially with no preconditions. Very nice post. Things will not change very much with either candidate in office.
July 9, 200818 yr What else do we have to go on with this guy? Shoe size? What do you know about him? I'll wait for you to share. You too, Original Rookie and TB&G. Well, I know he likes long walks on the beach, a good cigar, and upholding the tenets of National Socialism (or so a few of you have claimed). I know that he has a much firmer grasp of the geopolitical climate than McCain does. I know that his two closest confidants are David Axelrod and Pete Rouse, two extremely experienced men who I have an enormous amount of respect for. I know that, despite his age, he has won the trust and loyalty of Pete and Dave, providing him tremendous inroads into the Republican Party. I know that its foolish to look at someone’s voting records and attempt to draw any sort of conclusions. It is what it is. You say tomato, I say potato.
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