Know your rights. If you're concerned about your liberties, your rights, then know what they are.

I do know my rights, that's why I have such a problem with this whole "No Refusal Weekend."

Please.... weak.

 

Tell you what, you come up here sometime and I'll fix you one drink and I guarantee you'll feel the effect of that compared to one beer. One beer will not affect your ability to drive in any way, shape or form.

You're wrong, as it can get you pulled over at a "checkpoint" and possibly have to submit, to a Breathalyzer or be hauled off to the cross-bar motel, in some states.

 

:sssh:

You're wrong, as it can get you pulled over at a "checkpoint" and possibly have to submit, to a Breathalyzer or be hauled off to the cross-bar motel, in some states.

 

:sssh:

:lol:

Just so everyone’s clear, I’m against driving drunk, my sister was killed by a drunk driver when she was 18, it was a horrible experience for the whole family. I will never forget that night or the constant pain my mother goes through.

I just think that the police are going too far in this scenario.

I'll share a quick story and then I'm either going to operate a motor vehicle or go to sleep. I was around 18-20 and returning home from a date, when I see sirens in my mirror and I slow down.

 

As I slowed down and pulled over to pass, one sheriff pulled up beside and another in front. I almost had to slam on the brakes, to keep from hitting them. Both get out, with guns drawn and instructions for "hands in the air". By this time, another pulled in behind me....My hands went into the air.

 

I was instructed to exit the vehicle and did. One of the deputies recognized me and said, "He wouldn't rob a pizza place, I know him". My blue car, matched a description of being blue, according to the witness.

 

It didn't get me angry, just elevated the heart rate considerably. Point being, that compliance when innocent, is not a bad option.

I just simply don't see the big deal. If you don't drink, then why not take the breathalyzer.

 

 

Do you have a problem with check points where they check for your insurance card and drivers license?

 

I don't do alot of things, but that doesn't mean I should just surrender my privacy, rights and humanity without any cause. And yes, I do have a problem with those other checkpoints.

 

It seems to me(more and more all the time) that we are preaching democracy abroad, yet accepting fascism at home.

I'll share a quick story and then I'm either going to operate a motor vehicle or go to sleep. I was around 18-20 and returning home from a date, when I see sirens in my mirror and I slow down.

 

As I slowed down and pulled over to pass, one sheriff pulled up beside and another in front. I almost had to slam on the brakes, to keep from hitting them. Both get out, with guns drawn and instructions for "hands in the air". By this time, another pulled in behind me....My hands went into the air.

 

I was instructed to exit the vehicle and did. One of the deputies recognized me and said, "He wouldn't rob a pizza place, I know him". My blue car, matched a description of being blue, according to the witness.

 

It didn't get me angry, just elevated the heart rate considerably. Point being, that compliance when innocent, is not a bad option.

A similar thing happened to me when I was about 20, a car that fit the description of mine was involved in a robbery of a local bowling alley, I got out of the car to see what was wrong and the officer pointed his gun at me and told me to "freeze". Turned out the cop was my cousin. :lol:

I'll share a quick story and then I'm either going to operate a motor vehicle or go to sleep. I was around 18-20 and returning home from a date, when I see sirens in my mirror and I slow down.

 

As I slowed down and pulled over to pass, one sheriff pulled up beside and another in front. I almost had to slam on the brakes, to keep from hitting them. Both get out, with guns drawn and instructions for "hands in the air". By this time, another pulled in behind me....My hands went into the air.

 

I was instructed to exit the vehicle and did. One of the deputies recognized me and said, "He wouldn't rob a pizza place, I know him". My blue car, matched a description of being blue, according to the witness.

 

It didn't get me angry, just elevated the heart rate considerably. Point being, that compliance when innocent, is not a bad option.

 

Wow...that's quite a story.:eek:

Just so everyone’s clear, I’m against driving drunk, my sister was killed by a drunk driver when she was 18, it was a horrible experience for the whole family. I will never forget that night or the constant pain my mother goes through.

I just think that the police are going too far in this scenario.

 

I'm sorry to hear that about your sister. I'm certainly not for driving drunk either.

I, too, have had personal experience with drunk drivers. A year and a half ago, my brother and 2 of his friends were hit by one. Luckily, everyone survived, but they were all three ejected.

 

That being said, I have no problems with the checkpoints. If you are on a public road, then law enforcement agencies have every right to check you. As for the suspicion angle, to me refusing to give a breathliyzer would be suspicion enough to warrant the blood test. I agree with the "if you have nothing to hide" answers.

 

Does this mean that I agree with having my home searched? No. There is a major difference in searching your home and checking you on a public highway. To compare the two is ludicrious, IMO. Your home is your private sanctum. You give up a part of the privacy once you set foot (or tire) on public property.

 

And finally, the 1 beer topic. To those of you that say that one beer cannot affect your driving, apparently you have never guzzled down a large can of Steel Reserve.:creepy:

Does this mean that I agree with having my home searched? No. There is a major difference in searching your home and checking you on a public highway. To compare the two is ludicrious, IMO. Your home is your private sanctum. You give up a part of the privacy once you set foot (or tire) on public property.

 

 

I'd invite you over to the "Police Intrusion" thread to express your point of view. I completely disagree with it but I think it would be good for the thread.

Taking your blood without your consent IS an invasion of your privacy.

 

This is an invasion of privacy of the highest order.

 

I am terrified that so many people think an invasion of privacy is okay so long as you have nothing to hide. That is contrary to the foundation of this country and is a very ironic discussion to have on Independence Day.

 

People are making the inference that I am guilty if I don't want a state sponsored needle drawing bodily fluids. Unbelieveable.

I have no problem with checkpoints designed to protect us by getting drunk drivers off the road. I wish they happened more frequently.

I have no problem with checkpoints designed to protect us by getting drunk drivers off the road. I wish they happened more frequently.

This thread really isn't about checkpoints. It's about forcibly taking your blood.

Pretty simple solution, if you drink...don't drive. If you don't drink, take the breathalyzer...

 

No one will have to worry about blood tests...