Just the latest example.

In the Cincy area, as well as other parts of Ohio, if you say no this weekend to a breathalyzer test at a checkpoint, they’re going to haul you into the nearest hospital and make you give blood to test your blood alcohol level. That’s right, against your will. Sounds like the logical thing to do this weekend of all weekends, Happy Independence Day folks. I thought the 4th of July was the celebration of defeating tyranny.

Just the latest example.

In the Cincy area, as well as other parts of Ohio, if you say no this weekend to a breathalyzer test at a checkpoint, they’re going to haul you into the nearest hospital and make you give blood to test your blood alcohol level. That’s right, against your will. Sounds like the logical thing to do this weekend of all weekends, Happy Independence Day folks. I thought the 4th of July was the celebration of defeating tyranny.

 

I guess it depends upon the safety of the population versus the perceived "rights" of an individual.

I guess it depends upon the safety of the population versus the perceived "rights" of an individual.

So, you OK if they do random searches, maybe your your house, because they might think you have drugs?

Just the latest example.

In the Cincy area, as well as other parts of Ohio, if you say no this weekend to a breathalyzer test at a checkpoint, they’re going to haul you into the nearest hospital and make you give blood to test your blood alcohol level. That’s right, against your will. Sounds like the logical thing to do this weekend of all weekends, Happy Independence Day folks. I thought the 4th of July was the celebration of defeating tyranny.

 

In Kentucky, you cannot be compelled to give a blood or breath test, unless you are involved in a wreck that involves death or serious physical injury, in which case they must get a warrant.

 

Can't believe that would be constitutional in Ohio. 'Ru might know.

I'm pretty sure you are mistaken on the city. Its Columbus - not Cincinnati.

So, you OK if they do random searches, maybe your your house, because they might think you have drugs?

 

Difference is I'm not driving my house on a public road where others are placed in jeopardy. Apples and Oranges here.

So, you OK if they do random searches, maybe your your house, because they might think you have drugs?

 

So, you aren't in favor of wire tapping for purposes of determing terrorist activity?

So, you OK if they do random searches, maybe your your house, because they might think you have drugs?

 

RTS, I think you and I are on the same page on this one. Its a thin line that is getting crossed more and more. You cannot justify the actions by the results.

So, you aren't in favor of wire tapping for purposes of determing terrorist activity?

 

There has to be some burden placed on the wiretappers to show SOMETHING as far as justification.

 

Checkpoints do not show that SOMETHING.

Difference is I'm not driving my house on a public road where others are placed in jeopardy. Apples and Oranges here.

 

How far do you let it go then? Are you OK with them stopping you on a regular basis to see if you have explosives in your car? Guns? Drugs?

In Kentucky, you cannot be compelled to give a blood or breath test, unless you are involved in a wreck that involves death or serious physical injury, in which case they must get a warrant.

 

Can't believe that would be constitutional in Ohio. 'Ru might know.

 

That sounds very illegal IMO...

Shouldn't they need some sort of probable cause for this?

And people wonder why I am such a big defender of the 2nd Ammendment.

 

If "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.", something the Founding Fathers thought cam second in priorities, can be attacked seemingly everyday and be done away with, what do you think is going to happen to your other rights...........

I'm pretty sure you are mistaken on the city. Its Columbus - not Cincinnati.

I may be, but I'm pretty sure it's about to become state wide in Ohio.

 

RTS, I think you and I are on the same page on this one. Its a thin line that is getting crossed more and more. You cannot justify the actions by the results.

We are 100% in agreement. :thumb:

Difference is I'm not driving my house on a public road where others are placed in jeopardy. Apples and Oranges here.

My point is, you already get arrested and lose your license for six months, it's not like there's no punishment. What they're doing is just flat out wrong, it's Govt overstepping their bounds IMO.