July 4, 200818 yr To be honest, I've been laying back watching all this and it's rather amazing how fast we can speak in circles. For the record, I believe it is an invasion of privacy and I tried to play devil's advocate earlier but no one seemed to bite. I find it funny that some seem to scream "police state and Orwell" on this issue but their posts on earlier issues such as the Patriot Act and wire taps came across as "protection of this great country." The only difference I see is that some hear don't line themselves up as appearing as potential terrorists but might have a drink or two and get on the road so therefore this act in Columbus is a Constitutional Violation but the other is just the right of the state to protect people. My guess is more people are killed by drunk driving than terrorists in this country every year. If we are going to do one, why not the other? If we are really for the Constitution then we have to stand up for both IMHO. BTW, my inference of alcohol use or abuse is not tied to Mr. Network whom I quoted. It is just a blanket observation of posters as a whole that might or might not be in the situations I described. Good post. I said the same thing about the Patriot Act and wire tapping earlier. I'm all for people of legal age drinking alcohol. I will likely participate in that today. However, I am completely against anyone getting behind the wheel of a car after doing so. If the group of people (my family) that I will be out with today needs me not to drink so that someone will be completely alcohol free to drive home, I will gladly do that.
July 4, 200818 yr Author Thanks for the info. It doesn't change my mind, though, as this doesn't display the effects of alcohol, only what is considered legal amounts. You miss my point....I am 0 tolerence (in case you missed it). And you cannot, under either my information, or yours, say with any certainty that 1 beer will not have an effect on anyone. There are far many more variables, had you read either of my links. I got your point and I can respect that, I just disagree with you is all. I also disagree that one beer will have an effect on anyone, it's also not a reason to take my blood if I refuse the breathalyzer IMO.
July 4, 200818 yr Great post Hearsay. You are a valuable resource to many on this site. I think my postion more or less mirrors yours. The Rhenquist court really eroded the 4th Amendment with exception after exception. Many of them make a lot of sense practically speaking, but overall I tend to worry about that kind of results oriented approach.
July 5, 200818 yr I hate DUI checkpoints. :lol: BTW, they are NOT just DUI checkpoints. My wife drove through one last evening and they checked for proper car tags, her license and proof of insurance.
July 5, 200818 yr BTW, they are NOT just DUI checkpoints. My wife drove through one last evening and they checked for proper car tags, her license and proof of insurance. :laugh: Unfortunately, I know all too well that they are not just DUI checkpoints. Hearsay knows what I am talking about.
July 5, 200818 yr Tangent***Everytime I read the title of this thread, I start hearing REM's Losing My Religion in my head. :lol: Losing my Liberties doesn't fit well yet...I'm working with the syntax, though.
July 5, 200818 yr Tangent***Everytime I read the title of this thread, I start hearing REM's Losing My Religion in my head. :lol: Losing my Liberties doesn't fit well yet...I'm working with the syntax, though. I do the same thing, RM! :thumb:
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