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Game 4: Celtics 97 Lakers 91

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This to me just proves how Kobe is just not even close to being on Jordan's level.

I love Kobe and he is my favorite player in the NBA. IMO, he is the best in the league.

 

I feel Kobe is just as skilled as Jordan on both ends of the court. With that said, Jordan possessed a different set of intangibles that separates himself from virtually all others. There are only a handful on the Mount Rushmore of all-time great basketball players. MJ is up there. Kobe (at least to this point) is in the group just below.

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Missed the first half and only saw the last two quarters...pretty shocked and I am sure you all covered anything i would have said so...yeah, lol.

This to me just proves how Kobe is just not even close to being on Jordan's level.

 

And now it should never ever be brought up again.

 

I love Kobe and he is my favorite player in the NBA. IMO, he is the best in the league.

 

I feel Kobe is just as skilled as Jordan on both ends of the court. With that said, Jordan possessed a different set of intangibles that separates himself from virtually all others. There are only a handful on the Mount Rushmore of all-time great basketball players. MJ is up there. Kobe (at least to this point) is in the group just below.

 

This is very true. No way, no possible way that MJ would have allowed his team to blow a 24 point lead in a must win home game in the finals. It would not have mattered what other 4 players were out there with him. Actually the teammates weren't the problem in this one--Kobe should bear the brunt of responsiblity. He came up very small, the only way to me he could ever show he belongs in MJ's company now is to will the Lakers back from the 3-1 deficit.

I love Kobe and he is my favorite player in the NBA. IMO, he is the best in the league.

 

I feel Kobe is just as skilled as Jordan on both ends of the court. With that said, Jordan possessed a different set of intangibles that separates himself from virtually all others. There are only a handful on the Mount Rushmore of all-time great basketball players. MJ is up there. Kobe (at least to this point) is in the group just below.

 

Nail on the head...:thumb:

Just wondering what you all think on this... to me Kobe's Laker team has more talent than most of MJ's Bulls teams. I feel like MJ was able to make everyone else on his team so much better, and most of those players without him were pretty much scrubs or very limited role players. For example... see Scottie Pippen.... Kobe on the other hand is a great individual on a team of underachievers. It seems he lacks those intangibles to elevate everyone else's game.

Just wondering what you all think on this... to me Kobe's Laker team has more talent than most of MJ's Bulls teams. I feel like MJ was able to make everyone else on his team so much better, and most of those players without him were pretty much scrubs or very limited role players. For example... see Scottie Pippen.... Kobe on the other hand is a great individual on a team of underachievers. It seems he lacks those intangibles to elevate everyone else's game.

 

Let us not forget that Pippen was MVP of the league the first season Jordan retired and is one of the top 50 players of all time. Kobe does not have near that luxury of a player on the court.

 

Kobe has won the MVP this season by elevating the play of his teammates this season. Even his teammates would admit that. Despite getting to the finals, they are simply not physical at all on the interior... how they have managed to win as much as they have is amazing in itself. But when it comes to gut check time, Gasol, Odom, Radmonovic, etc. are not who you want going up for the big board or banging inside. Losing Bynum was big in the sense he would have gotten them over the top.

Let us not forget that Pippen was MVP of the league the first season Jordan retired and is one of the top 50 players of all time. Kobe does not have near that luxury of a player on the court.

 

Kobe has won the MVP this season by elevating the play of his teammates this season. Even his teammates would admit that. Despite getting to the finals, they are simply not physical at all on the interior... how they have managed to win as much as they have is amazing in itself. But when it comes to gut check time, Gasol, Odom, Radmonovic, etc. are not who you want going up for the big board or banging inside. Losing Bynum was big in the sense he would have gotten them over the top.

 

I would say Bynum is a huge loss and might be the missing link, but I still feel that Kobe is not making everyone elevate their game the way Jordan did other than by demanding so much attention from the D.

Jordan made Scottie Pippen there is no doubt about it. Scottie Pippen is a complete role player that was made a star by Jordan.

Man, Big Brown and the Lakers in the same week.

I would say Bynum is a huge loss and might be the missing link, but I still feel that Kobe is not making everyone elevate their game the way Jordan did other than by demanding so much attention from the D.

 

Kobe can't keep Gasol and Odom from disappearing at any point in the game. Gosal is the softest big man I have ever seen.

Stick a fork in the Lakers... :cool:

Kobe is showing that the comparisons to him and MJ are dumbfounded.

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Kobe is showing that the comparisons to him and MJ are dumbfounded.

 

Agree 100%. He is nowhere near the same league as Jordan.

Agree 100%. He is nowhere near the same league as Jordan.

 

He is nowhere close to Jordan.

 

Someone could even make a case that he is not the best all time Laker.

He is nowhere close to Jordan.

 

Someone could even make a case that he is not the best all time Laker.

 

I don't think that's even a question when Kareem, Magic, Chamberlain and The Logo all wore a Laker's uniform.

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