Only because we buy them for our kids, LBBC. And the notesbooks, and paper, and folders, and markers, and gluesticks, and Kleenex's, and hand sanitizer.....lol.

 

I quit doing it. They don't have them, then they don't have them.

 

My students need to blow their nose, they can use a hankie they brought in or those lovely towels from the janitor's closest. After going through about $30 one month on tissues, I said no more.

I quit doing it. They don't have them, then they don't have them.

 

My students need to blow their nose, they can use a hankie they brought in or those lovely towels from the janitor's closest. After going through about $30 one month on tissues, I said no more.

 

Yeah...I haven't quit yet. I try to hit all the sales in early August. Buy those things by the dozens.

So you make the claim that KY's teachers are overpaid, then you show that the neighboring states (which many KY teachers go to) pay more. You also fail to take into account that teachers are required by law to get a masters degree. In any other field a Master's usually means a big raise. In KY is just means that you get to keep your job and maybe get a small pay increase. To get a masters may cause a teacher to go tens of thousands in debt and further increase their cost of living.

 

If you are going to point out the bit about the master's not getting teachers a pay raise like it supposedly (at least according to you) does in any other field, could you at least point out that unlike someone in almost any other field, teachers have the best job security (tenure) found on this planet and no other field has anything close.

On your first statement, you are right. You are mistaken.

 

On your question about Christmas break, grade papers (1st semester exams) and finish up with 1st semester grades while preparing lesson plans for the 2nd semester.

 

3 Holidays (Thanksgiving, New Year's and Christmas) and 1 personal day. Any other holidays are unpaid days. Some school districts will have staff work a day during summer months to account for taking a day off in the school year. Alot of districts do this for the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.

 

I would agree with your last paragraph but I bet you would be surprised on how much downtime there actually is.

 

No disrespect, but sitting on a couch during Christmas Break grading papers hardly qualifies as tough work to me. I mean come on, we have to be honest about this. Its busy work. Its not mentally or physically challenging.

No disrespect, but sitting on a couch during Christmas Break grading papers hardly qualifies as tough work to me. I mean come on, we have to be honest about this. Its busy work. Its not mentally or physically challenging.

 

WOW!!!!

 

Grading portfolio papers, grading open response questions that are requirements on most schools final exams are not easy.

 

Especially, when the state guidelines hamstring a teacher. You need to find a way to tell the student that their portfolio paper is wrong and the changes they need to make in it without telling them the changes they need to make in it because then it wouldn't be considered their portfolio piece.

 

I taught Entrepreneurship for 10 years. Students required to put together a 30 page business prospectus for their final exam. About 20 students. I will let you use your HHS math skills to put together the page numbers to read and comment on for class over Christmas break.

 

In addition, I had several other classes that the students could choose a manual/project instead of simply a tests.

 

Many Christmases I would end up with 50 20-30 page manuals to read and HAVE to have finished and graded by the first day back. Along with the late assignments and work of the other 100-some students.

 

I guess for the unknowing person it wouldn't be much difference than a lawyer and sitting and reading legal briefs and law case history.:sssh:

If you are going to point out the bit about the master's not getting teachers a pay raise like it supposedly (at least according to you) does in any other field, could you at least point out that unlike someone in almost any other field, teachers have the best job security (tenure) found on this planet and no other field has anything close.

 

Master's ends up in a payraise at most school districts. $2,500 a year at my school. Takes awhile to breakeven with what the REQUIRED education costs but there is a jump in salary.

 

As I pointed out to another poster, your tenure comment is misleading. NO TEACHER has tenure the first 5 years of their teaching career. They can be fired FOR NO REASON and at a drop of a hat.

 

It will happen or has happened at EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT in the state between now and April 30th. The date the districts have to tell you whether you have a job next year or not.

 

So, if a teacher is so bad, why would a district keep them around for 5 years and then give them job protection?

 

And teachers after 5 years, principals can fire teachers, they just have to make their case that the teacher is a bad teacher, instead of their being a personality difference or the principal wanting their family member or friend to be in that position.

 

With tenure, if a teacher needs to be vocal about a student (let's say board member's child) and the discipline issues or failing grade in their classroom, they can without fear of reprisal.

Master's ends up in a payraise at most school districts. $2,500 a year at my school. Takes awhile to breakeven with what the REQUIRED education costs but there is a jump in salary.

 

As I pointed out to another poster, your tenure comment is misleading. NO TEACHER has tenure the first 5 years of their teaching career. They can be fired FOR NO REASON and at a drop of a hat.

 

It will happen or has happened at EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT in the state between now and April 30th. The date the districts have to tell you whether you have a job next year or not.

 

So, if a teacher is so bad, why would a district keep them around for 5 years and then give them job protection?

 

And teachers after 5 years, principals can fire teachers, they just have to make their case that the teacher is a bad teacher, instead of their being a personality difference or the principal wanting their family member or friend to be in that position.

 

With tenure, if a teacher needs to be vocal about a student (let's say board member's child) and the discipline issues or failing grade in their classroom, they can without fear of reprisal.

 

Gee. Fired for no reason and a drop of a hat. Welcome to the real world. I would like to see one teacher post that they love their job, realize all the extra perks that come along with it, and are happy with their pay structure. I hope the people teaching my kids aren't so bitter!!

Gee. Fired for no reason and a drop of a hat. Welcome to the real world. I would like to see one teacher post that they love their job, realize all the extra perks that come along with it, and are happy with their pay structure. I hope the people teaching my kids aren't so bitter!!

 

At union positions across this country, employees cannot be fired at a drop of a hat.

 

In fact, a good friend of mine was a supervisor at Levi's in Hebron. They caught an employee stealing and could not fire them till they went through a union meeting concerning it.

 

Welcome to the real world.

 

If you are so jealous of teachers, you need to get your degree and come join us.

At union positions across this country, employees cannot be fired at a drop of a hat.

 

In fact, a good friend of mine was a supervisor at Levi's in Hebron. They caught an employee stealing and could not fire them till they went through a union meeting concerning it.

 

Welcome to the real world.

 

If you are so jealous of teachers, you need to get your degree and come join us.

 

I live the real world every day. Not one teacher has posted anything on here, that I didn't know. I really wish I had become a teacher to coach:thumb:

Only because we buy them for our kids, LBBC. And the notesbooks, and paper, and folders, and markers, and gluesticks, and Kleenex's, and hand sanitizer.....lol.

 

We have had to buy this for our kids. I do know teachers do provide some resources, but most of that burden falls on the parents. At least where my kids go.

:thumb:Thank-you..

 

You're welcome:thumb:

No disrespect, but sitting on a couch during Christmas Break grading papers hardly qualifies as tough work to me. I mean come on, we have to be honest about this. Its busy work. Its not mentally or physically challenging.

 

You will not get any concessions from this group. I'm glad my teacher "friend" realizes how good they have it, and plans on staying in the field.:thumb:

We have had to buy this for our kids. I do know teachers do provide some resources, but most of that burden falls on the parents. At least where my kids go.

 

I teacher in a district with a large portion of students who live in poverty. If I want them to have a pencil, then I provide it. My school doesn't ask me to.

 

I am not bitter about my job. I love what I do. I KNOW I make a difference when I get up and do my job EVERY day. I would do it for pennies, if I could survive off of it. That is why I haven't ever considered if I was underpaid. My reward is the kids that go off to college and email/call/write and tell me how well prepared that they were, due to what I taught them. My reward is the ones that don't go to college that find jobs and see me in the community and tell me that I made a difference in the kind of adult that they are now.

 

The one thing that I do get bitter about...is the way some people treat my profession. I don't see any other jobs put up to be scrutinized. Go ahead, start threads on them. Let us teachers take a wack at them. You know what? We would be right on target about some things, but mostly it would be preconceived ideas because we don't do those jobs. Just like the rest of you all don't do ours.

I teacher in a district with a large portion of students who live in poverty. If I want them to have a pencil, then I provide it. My school doesn't ask me to.

 

I am not bitter about my job. I love what I do. I KNOW I make a difference when I get up and do my job EVERY day. I would do it for pennies, if I could survive off of it. That is why I haven't ever considered if I was underpaid. My reward is the kids that go off to college and email/call/write and tell me how well prepared that they were, due to what I taught them. My reward is the ones that don't go to college that find jobs and see me in the community and tell me that I made a difference in the kind of adult that they are now.

 

The one thing that I do get bitter about...is the way some people treat my profession. I don't see any other jobs put up to be scrutinized. Go ahead, start threads on them. Let us teachers take a wack at them. You know what? We would be right on target about some things, but mostly it would be preconceived ideas because we don't do those jobs. Just like the rest of you all don't do ours.

 

I appreciate what you do, and if you read all of my posts, you will see I believe teachers deserve everything they can get. BTW some of us are pretty familiar with this threads topic.:thumb:

I appreciate what you do, and if you read all of my posts, you will see I believe teachers deserve everything they can get. BTW some of us are pretty familiar with this threads topic.:thumb:

 

My whole post was not directed at you. You commented about the pencils, so I replied.

 

I think this will have to be my last visit to this thread. I am obviously too personally connected. For future reference, the next time the teacher bashing thread opens up, could someome PM me and tell me, so I don't open it? Thanks.