During bball season, I spent numerous weekend hours at a local school. I don't ever recall seeing a teacher. Now the custodian, that dude was always working.

 

Just a different shift. There is a shift of custodians that come on duty around 2 or 3 and stay to clean up till 10 or 11.

 

Different shift than the one that opens the place up at 6:00 AM.

 

Sundays are a busy day at many schools.

Just a different shift. There is a shift of custodians that come on duty around 2 or 3 and stay to clean up till 10 or 11.

 

Different shift than the one that opens the place up at 6:00 AM.

 

Sundays are a busy day at many schools.

I think that if schools expect teachers to work after hours and on the weekends, and most do, the least that they could do is make sure that the teachers can access their computers from home.

 

Too many districts have lazy or incompetent people running their IT services who get away with poor customer service that would never be tolerated in the private sector.

 

Every teacher should have a PC and they should be able to securely login to the PC and network from home when necessary. Schools spend a lot of money on technology that is too often underutilized through no fault of the schools' teachers.

I think that if schools expect teachers to work after hours and on the weekends, and most do, the least that they could do is make sure that the teachers can access their computers from home.

 

Too many districts have lazy or incompetent people running their IT services who get away with poor customer service that would never be tolerated in the private sector.

 

Every teacher should have a PC and they should be able to securely login to the PC and network from home when necessary. Schools spend a lot of money on technology that is too often underutilized through no fault of the schools' teachers.

 

Ky is working with a new program that is called Infinite Campus.

 

From home, teachers will be able to put in grades, lesson plans, etc.

 

GREAT PART OF THIS PROGRAM: Parents will be able to access grades, discipline, attendance of their child from their home computer. Now, I am not talking about just a number grade but a listing of all the assignments and you will be able to see which ones that your child has chosen to take a zero on by not turning it in.

 

It is in the pilot stage and my school district is serving as one of the test schools, trying to work out all of the bugs in the system.

 

Is it effective. Let's just say my daughter hates it.:fire:

 

She comes home and I can ask her why she did not turn in her assignment during 3rd block today.:fight:

I teacher in a district with a large portion of students who live in poverty. If I want them to have a pencil, then I provide it. My school doesn't ask me to.

 

I am not bitter about my job. I love what I do. I KNOW I make a difference when I get up and do my job EVERY day. I would do it for pennies, if I could survive off of it. That is why I haven't ever considered if I was underpaid. My reward is the kids that go off to college and email/call/write and tell me how well prepared that they were, due to what I taught them. My reward is the ones that don't go to college that find jobs and see me in the community and tell me that I made a difference in the kind of adult that they are now. The one thing that I do get bitter about...is the way some people treat my profession. I don't see any other jobs put up to be scrutinized. Go ahead, start threads on them. Let us teachers take a wack at them. You know what? We would be right on target about some things, but mostly it would be preconceived ideas because we don't do those jobs. Just like the rest of you all don't do ours.

 

 

AMEN!!:thumb:

Ky is working with a new program that is called Infinite Campus.

 

From home, teachers will be able to put in grades, lesson plans, etc.

 

GREAT PART OF THIS PROGRAM: Parents will be able to access grades, discipline, attendance of their child from their home computer. Now, I am not talking about just a number grade but a listing of all the assignments and you will be able to see which ones that your child has chosen to take a zero on by not turning it in.

 

It is in the pilot stage and my school district is serving as one of the test schools, trying to work out all of the bugs in the system.

 

Is it effective. Let's just say my daughter hates it.:fire:

 

She comes home and I can ask her why she did not turn in her assignment during 3rd block today.:fight:

That's great news, LBBC. I just wonder if all school districts will have the technical staff to participate safely. If not, then the first time that there is a major security breach, the program may be scuttled for liability reasons.

 

Also, before I get attacked for my comments about school technology resources, let me say that I am sure that there are many very capable IT people working in Kentucky school districts. My experience in this are has been limited.

 

If your district backs your records up on a nightly basis, makes a strong effort to recover lost files from crashed hard drives, and provides secure access from home when it is necessary, then my comments do not apply. However, if your files are not automatically backed up, your students have email accounts that they are not allowed to use, and only school IT staff can access computers from home, then my comments apply to your district.

During bball season, I spent numerous weekend hours at a local school. I don't ever recall seeing a teacher. Now the custodian, that dude was always working.

 

You haven't been to our school on Sundays then. They are there at all hours.

That's great news, LBBC. I just wonder if all school districts will have the technical staff to participate safely. If not, then the first time that there is a major security breach, the program may be scuttled for liability reasons.

 

Also, before I get attacked for my comments about school technology resources, let me say that I am sure that there are many very capable IT people working in Kentucky school districts. My experience in this are has been limited.

 

If your district backs your records up on a nightly basis, makes a strong effort to recover lost files from crashed hard drives, and provides secure access from home when it is necessary, then my comments do not apply. However, if your files are not automatically backed up, your students have email accounts that they are not allowed to use, and only school IT staff can access computers from home, then my comments apply to your district.

 

Since the networks are through the state of KY and NOT each individual district, I am not sure that will be much of a problem.

 

Any program is hackable but the state of KY is the best equipped to handle it than each district.

Can't you do this from your computer at home? And if not, why?

 

I can't set up my classroom (I teach 5th grade) for experiential history lessons that hopefully bring them alive. I do not have access to copiers, laminators and such that are at the school. I don't just go in on Sundays but Saturdays and other days off. Do all teachers do this? Probably not but like I said before I love what I do and don't do it for the money. However, I abhor the disrespect that a lot of people give this profession. People really have no idea.

 

By the way, if I am at home on the computer I am still working . . . funny since we only work from 8:00 - 2:45 Monday through Friday. Hmmmm?

I am not going to villify you, but I am going to tell you that you don't know what you are talking about if you think that teacher's "barely work half a year".

 

I know a TON of teachers....they work much, much, much less than I do....I said that their hourly rate is rather high if you factor in the hours that they work.

RP, you know I love you, bro, but you're failing to take into account how much work is done "off the clock" by teachers.

 

A ton of people take work home with them...one being me....I worked from home for about 4-5 hours, that's not really "working"...it's fun to be around the house, and get things done with work.

Most people don't have to continue going to school for their job. Most people aren't responsible for educating the future leaders of the country. Teachers are more important than most people.

 

Actually tons of professions have a lot of "continuing education"....I have done it for the last 9 years in sales.

As much as I love BGP, this is the only place that I have every been or the only people that I have ever talked to that have tried to make be feel shameful for my job.

 

Done.

 

Please , nobody is saying you should be shameful of the profession that you CHOSE to do...I personally get sick of hearing people say teachers are underpaid for what they do...it gets really old...like I said, I have three very special people who are dear to me that are realists about their hourly rate. Coming from me, I am one of the most overpaid persons in this entire country for the hours I work, and what I do. But I do so love my job, that it often doesn't feel like work...

I didn't read the rest of the thread, but here is my insight:

 

I guess Kentucky teachers may be overpaid in relation to teachers' from other states, but I believe that all teachers in general are underpaid so I struggle to use AcesFull's wording.

 

I am an idealist in this sense but I truly believe that if we could somehow (I have no idea how) dramatically improve education in rural, suburban, and urban areas, then the need for welfare would be almost erased. And I believe the best way to improve something is to pump a lot of money into it.

This is like the chicken-and-the egg debate. Which came first: underpaid/overpaid teachers or under-educated populace?

 

Will we get better results (graduation rate, college entrace rates, increase in median pay) if we pay teachers more?

 

I once had a friend tell me that teachers are underpaid. I told him that he was lucky that they are because if they were paid more, I would take his job. He agreed with me. He is now a Principal with 20+ years experience and he would agree with me today, too.

 

I have neither the desire nor talent for teaching but increased pay means an increased pool of workers. That is my point.

Teachers, enjoy the week off.

 

 

j/k

 

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