I just won't tell you what I do. What other details do you want?

 

Let's use your numbers. 52 weeks a year, 5 work days a week that's 260 work days a year. I get 6 holidays so that takes it down to 254 days BUT most years I have to work on 3 of those days so we're back up to 257 working days. From July to November I have to work almost every Saturday so let's add 20 days for that. I work Saturdays and the occasional at other times through the year, maybe 10. Now we're up to 287 working days. I get 26 pay checks a year and every time I get one I get 6.15 hours of paid time off, so for every 2 weeks I work I get less then one day off. That works out to aproximately 20 paid days off a year. That includes both vacation and sick time. Usually I take 2 weeks of vacation (14 days) and keep 6 in my "bank" in case I get sick. By those numbers (without sickness) I work 273 days a year.

 

Once again, I'm not anti-teacher at all. You do a job that I don't think I could do and I know you haven't said it but I strongly disagree with the people that say teachers are underpaid.

 

Your post brings up an excellent point. Because you know I am a teacher (or any other teachers that you might intend), you (and others) have a certain set of expectations that go along with what the job is like. These expectations may or may not reflect reality. Simply because I do no know what you do, I cannot have any preconceived expectations and can not arrive at any conclusions that you do not intend.

Most people don't have to continue going to school for their job. Most people aren't responsible for educating the future leaders of the country. Teachers are more important than most people.

 

You'd be suprised. Auto Mechanics, HVAC, Welders, and the list goes on in the trade industries of jobs that continued schooling is a must. I don't think any one is more important than anyone else. Quite an elitist attitude that I highly doubt many teachers subscribe to.

I make less then the average teacher.

 

I have a degree, in fact I have a degree in education and at one time held a teaching certificate. My profession requires a degree and special certification.

 

My profession requires me to get continuing education every year.

I'll be working next week while schools in Jefferson County are on spring break. That means the teachers are off for the week.

 

In June, July and August I work while teachers are on summer vacation.

I get a whopping 6 paid holidays a year (New Year's, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas). Unfortunately because of the nature of my job I usually end up working in Labor Day and Thanksgiving so I guess in reality I get 4 paid holidays) Teachers get those PLUS a few others.

 

I get a whopping 3 weeks of vacation a year and 10 sick days. I would LOVE to have an entire summer PLUS a Spring and Christmas (oops Winter so as not to offend the PC) break.

 

I don't get the artificial job protection of tenure. If I do a bad job I get fired and it doesn't matter how long I've been working. (You want a reward for being required to get a Masters Degree, well there you go) I don't know what it's like in other counties but in Jefferson County it is so hard to terminate an incompetent teacher that most of them get "promoted" to a non-teaching position.

 

Now I don't know that I would say teachers are overpaid but I certainly don't think that they are grossly underpaid as many (particularly the union leaders) would have you believe.

 

For the record as a teacher I am required to complete a minimum ( it often works out to be much more) of 24 hours continuing education per year primarily at my own expense . . . the June, July, August vacation is hardly that long. After school ends at the end of May I am required to stay additional days to "close" out my year. During the remaining months I have to attend Professional Development seminars that range anywhere from 1-7 days at a time. In July I go in to the classroom to get get ready for the students that will come on or around August 5th. I get 10 sick days a year plus the same holidays as you. If you calculate this summer vacation it probably works out to around 3 weeks just like you. As far as Fall break, Christmas break and Spring Break . . . I am often working during these times, now some teachers don't but I do. I have to put up with parents, behavior problems, and be a miracle worker as well as teach state mandated curriculum. I think I (as well as other teachers) deserve every dime we get---plus. If you think it is such an easy job why did you not maintain your teaching certificate? I think perhaps you didn't want to work as hard. Thank you very much.:banana: Oh, and by the way, I have personally never complained in a public forum about how much I am paid . . . I just wanted to let you know that its not always as it seems. . . I got into teaching because I wanted to make a difference in children's lives . . .I think I have . . .that is my reward. I never got into it for the money . . . it is a calling . . . most teachers feel the same way.

For the record as a teacher I am required to complete a minimum of 24 hours continuing education per year primarily at my own expense . . . the June, July, August vacation is hardly that long. After school ends at the end of May I am required to stay additional days to "close" out my year. During the remaining months I have to attend Professional Development seminars that range anywhere from 1-7 days at a time. In July I go in to the classroom to get get ready for the students that will come on or around August 5th. I get 10 sick days a year plus the same holidays as you. If you calculate this summer vacation it probably works out to around 3 weeks just like you. As far as Fall break, Christmas break and Spring Break . . . I am often working during these times, now some teachers don't but I do. I have to put up with parents, behavior problems, and be a miracle worker as well as teach state mandated curriculum. I think I (as well as other teachers) deserve every dime we get---plus. If you think it is such an easy job why did you not maintain your teaching certificate? I think perhaps you didn't want to work as hard. Thank you very much.:banana:

 

So, the questions stands; Are you happy with your pay structure?

So, the questions stands; Are you happy with your pay structure?

 

Refer back to my post. I anticipated this question and edited my reply to reflect my response probably while you were posting.

For the record as a teacher I am required to complete a minimum ( it often works out to be much more) of 24 hours continuing education per year primarily at my own expense . . . the June, July, August vacation is hardly that long. After school ends at the end of May I am required to stay additional days to "close" out my year. During the remaining months I have to attend Professional Development seminars that range anywhere from 1-7 days at a time. In July I go in to the classroom to get get ready for the students that will come on or around August 5th. I get 10 sick days a year plus the same holidays as you. If you calculate this summer vacation it probably works out to around 3 weeks just like you. As far as Fall break, Christmas break and Spring Break . . . I am often working during these times, now some teachers don't but I do. I have to put up with parents, behavior problems, and be a miracle worker as well as teach state mandated curriculum. I think I (as well as other teachers) deserve every dime we get---plus. If you think it is such an easy job why did you not maintain your teaching certificate? I think perhaps you didn't want to work as hard. Thank you very much.:banana: Oh, and by the way, I have personally never complained in a public forum about how much I am paid . . . I just wanted to let you know that its not always as it seems. . . I got into teaching because I wanted to make a difference in children's lives . . .I think I have . . .that is my reward. I never got into it for the money . . . it is a calling . . . most teachers feel the same way.

 

My hat is off to you for teaching. For some odd reason people think it's a piece of cake. Teacher's have to prepare for a substitute to teach all of their classes if they decide to volunteer for a trip (educational) with other student's during the year. Teacher's spend many hour's of their "off time" grading paper's, preparing lesson's etc. I'll keep my day job any day because I know so many other people who are awesome teacher's, and they make a big difference in a child's life. The teacher's deserve every dime they earn.

As a retired teacher, I made (brought home) $362.00 a month the first year with a degree. NOT much even for 1973. How many professions need to spend extra money for their room, their students, and themselves , most other jobs have what they need given to them , not teachers. I am now working extra to make it in retirement, or make it better. NO we are not overpaid. About the year 1988 , we were having an after school meeting ( oh how many have to spend time after their jobs) , the principal informed us that a teacher with a wife and 2 children , that the chldren could receive free lunches. What about coming into school early for bus duty, or staying late for bus duty. Or working ball games after school, teachers earn their pay.:thumb:

As a retired teacher, I made (brought home) $362.00 a month the first year with a degree. NOT much even for 1973. How many professions need to spend extra money for their room, their students, and themselves , most other jobs have what they need given to them , not teachers. I am now working extra to make it in retirement, or make it better. NO we are not overpaid. About the year 1988 , we were having an after school meeting ( oh how many have to spend time after their jobs) , the principal informed us that a teacher with a wife and 2 children , that the chldren could receive free lunches. What about coming into school early for bus duty, or staying late for bus duty. Or working ball games after school, teachers earn their pay.:thumb:

 

I didn't think a teacher would play the retirement card in this thread. Maybe we should talk tenure also.

And what is meant by this comment?:confused:

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And what is meant by this comment?:confused:

 

You do know these are different for teachers than, should I say the job John Q. Public has?

I want to thank every teacher in the state of Kentucky for teaching! :thumb:

As a retired teacher, I made (brought home) $362.00 a month the first year with a degree. NOT much even for 1973. How many professions need to spend extra money for their room, their students, and themselves , most other jobs have what they need given to them , not teachers. I am now working extra to make it in retirement, or make it better. NO we are not overpaid. About the year 1988 , we were having an after school meeting ( oh how many have to spend time after their jobs) , the principal informed us that a teacher with a wife and 2 children , that the chldren could receive free lunches. What about coming into school early for bus duty, or staying late for bus duty. Or working ball games after school, teachers earn their pay.:thumb:

 

Let me just thank you for the years of service that you gave of yourself to a worthwhile profession. :thumb:

I make less then the average teacher.

 

I have a degree, in fact I have a degree in education and at one time held a teaching certificate. My profession requires a degree and special certification.

 

My profession requires me to get continuing education every year.

 

I'll be working next week while schools in Jefferson County are on spring break. That means the teachers are off for the week.

 

In June, July and August I work while teachers are on summer vacation.

 

I get a whopping 6 paid holidays a year (New Year's, Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas). Unfortunately because of the nature of my job I usually end up working in Labor Day and Thanksgiving so I guess in reality I get 4 paid holidays) Teachers get those PLUS a few others.

 

I get a whopping 3 weeks of vacation a year and 10 sick days. I would LOVE to have an entire summer PLUS a Spring and Christmas (oops Winter so as not to offend the PC) break.

 

I don't get the artificial job protection of tenure. If I do a bad job I get fired and it doesn't matter how long I've been working. (You want a reward for being required to get a Masters Degree, well there you go) I don't know what it's like in other counties but in Jefferson County it is so hard to terminate an incompetent teacher that most of them get "promoted" to a non-teaching position.

 

Now I don't know that I would say teachers are overpaid but I certainly don't think that they are grossly underpaid as many (particularly the union leaders) would have you believe.

 

One last question...why did you "give all of it up" then? Since you have a teaching degree and teacherb have it so good, why are you not a teacher?

One last question...why did you "give all of it up" then? Since you have a teaching degree and teacherb have it so good, why are you not a teacher?

 

Yes good question , answer! Some people just aren't cut out to be a teacher , because the job is so demanding, yes demanding it is. :irked: