February 2, 200818 yr I'm doing an argumentative paper on this subject for my english class, and I was wondering what people's opinions are on this. There are obviously good cases for each side. Have at it.
February 2, 200818 yr Nope. Student, athlete. I don't know many professional students unless you are one of those who takes ten years to get a degree. By then of course, you eligibility is up.
February 2, 200818 yr If you look at how much money they make for the Universities then, Yes I say they should. The counter argument to that is they are getting paid by getting a free ride.
February 2, 200818 yr Author If you look at how much money they make for the Universities then, Yes I say they should. The counter argument to that is they are getting paid by getting a free ride. Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking too. Schools, especially the larger schools, make so much money off of these young athletes that you think they should get more in return, but college is expensive, and a lot of them are getting it paid for. So easily, both sides are seen.
February 2, 200818 yr No, because if you do one sport, than Title IX would mandate that ALL, would receive compensation and most programs, couldn't sustain that. Considerable numbers for D1 football and many couldn't offset, the amount.
February 2, 200818 yr If you look at how much money they make for the Universities then, Yes I say they should. The counter argument to that is they are getting paid by getting a free ride. :thumb: They are being paid with an education.
February 2, 200818 yr Only the wealthy few universities actually make money with athletics so NO! Also, a student-athlete at Ohio State for example, is getting $100K or more in education, and that's not just football and basketball that are making money it's also golf, rowing, swimming and other non-revenue sports. Most athletes are there for the education no matter what the media wants you to think.
February 2, 200818 yr There are more universities that are making money then you might want to believe!
February 2, 200818 yr There are more universities that are making money then you might want to believe! They are getting paid. At some places up to 40,000 a year. So anything else would be a bonus, and that is a NO! Didn't mean to quote that.
February 2, 200818 yr As a former College Athlete(UK Football) that at one time was a walk-on, and had time as a scholarship athlete-----ABSOLUTELY YES!!!!!! Sure you get a scholarship, but that only goes so far. I can't tell you how many meals that I would have not been able to eat because I wasn't able to go out and have a job to get some extra money. I'm lucky my parents and grandparents lived in town. Many a teamate had a dinner with me, because they had nowher to go and no money to eat with. Rick Majerus actually broke some NCAA rules when he was at Utha for buying one of his players a pizza for dinner, and another $20 worth of groceries because they had no food. It's not like having a job was agianst the rules, but I didn't have time to do that between studies and practice. Some scholarship players may have looked as if they had things going well, but from what I saw, as a whole, we were all in need. And if for Title IX reasons pay would be equal, then I would be all for that.
February 2, 200818 yr Think about all the athletes at the University of Kentucky - all this is taken from their website Football - 117 Players (not sure - hard to count that many) Mens Basketball - 16 Players Womens Basketball - 16 Players Baseball - 37 Players Softball - 16 Players Mens Golf - 10 Players Womens Golf - 8 Players Volleyball - 13 Players Mens Tennis - 11 Players Womens Tennis - 7 Players Mens Swimming / Diving - 28 Players Womens Swimming - 28 Players Mens Soccer - 27 Players Womens Soccer - 29 Players Rifle - 10 Players (men and women combined) Mens Cross Country - 14 Players Womens Cross Country - 11 Players Womens Gymnastics - 14 Players Mens Track - 42 Players Womens Track - 31 Players This is 485 athletes and let's say they each got paid $10,000 Total Cost $4,850,000 $15,000 Total Cost $7,275,000 $20,000 Total Cost $9,700,000 $25,000 Total Cost $12,125,000 $30,000 Total Cost $14,550,000 $35,000 Total Cost $16,975,000 $40,000 Total Cost $19,400,000 According to http://www.finaid.org the 2007-2008 average total costs (including tuition and fees, room and board, books and supplies, transportation and other expenses) were $13,126 for two-year public colleges $17,336 for four-year public colleges and universities $35,374 for four-year private colleges and universities $27,791 for four-year public colleges and universities So if you look at the highest cost of four year private colleges and universities and paid the students just the cost of attending school it would run each school roughly $16 - 19 million. The way the system is right now only a select few athletes get full rides and the cost of "paying" athletes is much lower. Now let's look at other various problems that would come with this 1. How do you determine who gets paid what? - Scholarship player vs. walk on 2. Is there a minimum wage? 3. Do they pay into a retirement? 4. Do they pay into a health insurance plan? 5. Glamour sports vs lower tier sports - do they get paid the same or a scaled payment 6. Do you get raises for each year? 7. Medical Redshirt years - get paid or not? 8. What about other extracurricular activities at the school - do they get paid if they make any money? 9. Do you make what schools pay equal across the board or do you let each school determine what they can pay? 10. Any type of parity that we now have through scholarship reductions will be gone if you go with letting each school pay what they want - the bigger schools and conferences will be able to pay more and get the best athletes. 11. What about private schools vs public schools - do you pay the same? Advantages of the system we have now 1. Athletes on scholarship get a $20,000 - 40,000 education 2. Based on my guess - out of all the athletes at a college PROBABLY less than 3% will go professional at the sport they play. The other 97% are getting a free education which will allow them to move into the real world debt free. Once again this is my guess I cannot back this up. 3. According to http://www.msnmoney.com the typical non-sport playing student is leaving school in debt around $20,000 4. An athlete is leaving school (not going pro) with valuable recognition to help them gain employment (yes that could be said if you pay them so I guess it's a bonus for both) 5. Free medical care - if an athlete is injured they get some of the best medical care provided by the school There are things that need to change with the current system 1. Give athletes a small stipend if they can't hold off season jobs - regular students can work to have extra money athletes hands are tied because they cannot hold jobs 2. Ensure scholarships in case of an injury during school related injuries / illnesses 3. Free medical care in case of injury during school related injuries / illnesses Probably some more but those are the things I can think of off the top of my head. It would be nice to pay athletes but let's face it the economics of the situation doesn't allow it. Besides they are being paid - with an education. That is something that in the long run is priceless and worth more than any amount of money they will ever get while in school.
February 2, 200818 yr "$27,791 for four-year public colleges and universities" Sorry this one should read $27,791 for four-year OUT OF STATE public colleges and universities My bad and sorry for the confusion.
February 2, 200818 yr I think they should be given some spending money to offset their inability to get a job. Maybe $50.00 per week as a meal allowance. Other than that ido not think they should be paid.
February 2, 200818 yr I know several students that had enough scholarships and academic aid that they were being paid to go to school. I say it should be allowable to provide some type of stipend (a few thousand per year maybe) to help with costs not covered by the scholarship.
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