January 8, 200818 yr It seems that the hottest thing is a plus 1 playoff format. My contention is that does nothing but put the debate from a team being left out of the final game to left out of the final 3 games. Who would have been the top 4 teams this year? Who gets left out? USC, LSU, OSU would be pretty much shoo-ins for the plus 1 format? Who is the fourth? From the AP final poll: 1. LSU (60) 12-2 1,620 2. Georgia (3) 11-2 1,515 3. USC (1) 11-2 1,500 4. Missouri 12-2 1,347 5. Ohio State 11-2 1,346 6. West Virginia 11-2 1,342 7. Kansas (1) 12-1 1,303 8. Oklahoma 11-3 1,139 9. Virginia Tech 11-3 1,096 10. Texas 10-3 962 10. Boston College 11-3 962 Georgia finished 2nd, do you give SEC two teams in the final 4? Do you go with Missouri who finished 4th or Oklahoma that beat them in the Big 12 championship game? What about WVU? Va Tech the ACC champ?
January 8, 200818 yr Author Kansas or Hawaii. So you send a team that didn't make their conference championship game in Kansas?
January 8, 200818 yr Author Are you saying before the bowl games or after? My understanding of the playoff format is that you designate two bowl games to be a semifinal. They play on New Year's Day and then the two winners would have played last night for the championship game.
January 8, 200818 yr Are you saying before the bowl games or after? Right. I've heard one comment that the talks of a plus-one could actually be 4 teams choosen AFTER the bowl games. Makes a big difference.
January 8, 200818 yr My contention is that does nothing but put the debate from a team being left out of the final game to left out of the final 3 games. Who would have been the top 4 teams this year? Who gets left out? With a Plus One you can make a much stronger case that the #5 team isn't national title worthy than you can the #3 team, which is what we do now. Plus One isn't a playoff, but it's a step in the right direction.
January 8, 200818 yr Author With a Plus One you can make a much stronger case that the #5 team isn't national title worthy than you can the #3 team, which is what we do now. Plus One isn't a playoff, but it's a step in the right direction. Really, you have USC who lost to Stanford at home and Georgia that didn't win their conference because of the #1 team in the nation was on their divisional side. You have the Big 12, Big East and ACC champions. This year, it is very hard to say who was deserving. While LSU won it all, there could be a good argument, they didn't deserve to be there with 2 losses.
January 8, 200818 yr My understanding of the playoff format is that you designate two bowl games to be a semifinal. They play on New Year's Day and then the two winners would have played last night for the championship game. I like it. It's better than nothing at all, which is pretty much what we have right now. Georgia should have been in the Rose Bowl instead of Illinois, and the winner of their game with USC should have played the winner of Ohio State and LSU for the national championship.
January 8, 200818 yr So you send a team that didn't make their conference championship game in Kansas? Everybody else had 2+ losses. This is why I don't like a +1 format. In NCAA football, picking 4 teams still gives a decent chance to leave out the best team. At least 8 teams are needed, and I think 12 would be perfect.
January 8, 200818 yr Author I like it. It's better than nothing at all, which is pretty much what we have right now. Georgia should have been in the Rose Bowl instead of Illinois, and the winner of their game with USC should have played the winner of Ohio State and LSU for the national championship. Here is the problem with that, you are giving two teams out of four to the SEC. I am sure that the Big 12, the ACC and the Big East is going to have problems with that.
January 8, 200818 yr I would give the 4th-spot to Georgia. I doubt the voters would do that because that would make two SEC teams, but they are the best team left out. Hawaii would be demolished. Kansas got beat by Missouri and Missouri shouldn't make it.
January 8, 200818 yr Here is the problem with that, you are giving two teams out of four to the SEC. I am sure that the Big 12, the ACC and the Big East is going to have problems with that. True, but don't we want the 4 best teams regardless of conference? I also would rather have an 8 team playoff, but that's never going to happen.
January 8, 200818 yr Author True, but don't we want the 4 best teams regardless of conference? I also would rather have an 8 team playoff, but that's never going to happen. If the present system is not suitable to determine the two best teams, how is it suitable to deciding the 4 best teams? You would have to leave out a BCS conference champion. And I bet there would be some serious heat on choosing a team that couldn't even make it's conference championship game while excluding 3 major conferences champions, especially considering 2 of those teams were ranked #1 in the nation at one point?
January 8, 200818 yr If the present system is not suitable to determine the two best teams, how is it suitable to deciding the 4 best teams? You would have to leave out a BCS conference champion. And I bet there would be some serious heat on choosing a team that couldn't even make it's conference championship game while excluding 3 major conferences champions, especially considering 2 of those teams were ranked #1 in the nation at one point? The best thing to do would be a 8 team playoff. Have the first round of the playoffs the week right after the regular season ends. Then you have the 4 teams who are left and put them in two different BCS Bowls on New years day. Then have the winners of the two bowls play a week later for the Title... I know you still will a few teams who will complain about being left out of the 8 team playoff. But with 8 teams, you really will have a good chance at crowing a true national champion...
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