"God" has no place in politics.

 

Saw this quote in another thread. Does anyone find it accurate?

 

I tend to believe that no single religion (or religious organization) should dominate the government. But should morality and God be removed from all political philosophies whatsoever?

As long as my life is dedicated to trying to do what God wants me to do, I cannot separate God from decisions I make including pulling the lever at the voting booth, voicing my support for candidates/issues that I think God would want me to support and if I ever decide to run for an office be forthright in that my Christian faith will guide me in loving my neighbor before me, think of others first and deny myself and the world but seek Him.

I don't see how we can separate church from state whe in all of the founding fathers documents that started this country has the name of God.

...Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion,nor shall it establish any edict prohibiting the free expression thereof...

 

There can be no state suppported religion..be it Catholic,Christian,Church of England,Odinist,Satanist,Wiccan...etc.,etc.,ad nauseum...

Nor can the government keep anyone from practicing any religion,no matter how far fetched it may be!

 

NOWHERE does it state where or when these religions may or MAY NOT be practiced,whether openly or in private.

 

And just so you know..a great many of the founding fathers were members of the Masonic Lodge,therefore the concept of 'DEITY' could take on many connotations.

 

As to whether morality and God should be removed completely? My personal feeling is no...but since the constitution establishes no particular relgion nor prohibits the practice of any particular religion...it is not for me to say.

...Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion,nor shall it establish any edict prohibiting the free expression thereof...

 

There can be no state suppported religion..be it Catholic,Christian,Church of England,Odinist,Satanist,Wiccan...etc.,etc.,ad nauseum...

Nor can the government keep anyone from practicing any of the above (or any other)religion.

 

NOWHERE does it state where or when these religions may or MAY NOT be practiced,whether openly or in private.

 

And just so you know..a great many of the founding fathers were members of the Masonic Lodge,therefore the concept of 'DEITY' could take on many connotations!

 

Bolded is not exactly true. There was some legislature in this country that said if you wanted to open the session with prayer, you could not mention the name of Jesus Christ.

 

You also have times where people have been limited in prayers and how/where they could pray.

 

So, they can and do limit it in some fashion.

Bolded is not exactly true. There was some legislature in this country that said if you wanted to open the session with prayer, you could not mention the name of Jesus Christ.

 

You also have times where people have been limited in prayers and how/where they could pray.

 

So, they can and do limit it in some fashion.

Again..NOWHERE,does the constitution say where and when the religion may or may not be practiced...whether open or in private... this legislation was an interpretation by the Supreme Court! (Just being the devil's advocate here...oops...the Supreme Court doesn't recognize the devil,Jesus Christ,God,Odin,Bhai or any other deity..can't be anyone's advocate but mine..LOL)

 

I'm on your side..just making a point...where is this in the constitution?

Again..NOWHERE,does the constitution say where and when the religion may or may not be practiced...whether open or in private... this legislation was an interpretation by the Supreme Court! (Just being the devil's advocate here...oops...the Supreme Court doesn't recognize the devil,Jesus Christ,God,Odin,Bhai or any other deity..can't be anyone's advocate but mine..LOL)

 

I'm on your side..just making a point...where is this in the constitution?

 

Isn't it ironic that those who are proponents of strong church and state give unyielding faith and guidance to a document that men wrote (Constitution) and interpret and then quickly jump on Christians for believing and interpreting a book that THEY say, men wrote.

Bolded is not exactly true. There was some legislature in this country that said if you wanted to open the session with prayer, you could not mention the name of Jesus Christ.

 

You also have times where people have been limited in prayers and how/where they could pray.

 

So, they can and do limit it in some fashion.

 

 

Do you mean like Jesus did? Reread Matthew's words from Jesus on when and how we ought to pray.

Do you mean like Jesus did? Reread Matthew's words from Jesus on when and how we ought to pray.

 

What Jesus said aboout praying has bothered me for a long time concerning my prayer life and when we are asked to pray at Church. I believe there is even a thread about my concern somewhere on here.

 

I was addressing the government aspect not what Jesus required.

As long as my life is dedicated to trying to do what God wants me to do, I cannot separate God from decisions I make including pulling the lever at the voting booth, voicing my support for candidates/issues that I think God would want me to support and if I ever decide to run for an office be forthright in that my Christian faith will guide me in loving my neighbor before me, think of others first and deny myself and the world but seek Him.

You and I don't agree on too much, but when it comes to church & state, while it may be inteded to be seperate, it means a whole bunch to me.

Bolded is not exactly true. There was some legislature in this country that said if you wanted to open the session with prayer, you could not mention the name of Jesus Christ.

 

You also have times where people have been limited in prayers and how/where they could pray.

 

So, they can and do limit it in some fashion.

 

NO NO NO!!! You are free to pray anytime, anyplace you want. What you are not free to do is use government resources to force ANY particular religion on everyone else. As a member of a religion that has endured a fair amount of bigotry of the years, I have a particular sensitivity to this issue.

Saw this quote in another thread. Does anyone find it accurate?

 

I tend to believe that no single religion (or religious organization) should dominate the government. But should morality and God be removed from all political philosophies whatsoever?

 

 

Absolutely, I agree with it. That poster is a scholar and a gentlemen.

 

Religion has absolutely no place in politics. Our country is one of the most diverse in the world. We have thousands upon thousands of citizens who worship religions other than Christianity. We have Muslims, Hindus, Daoists, Shintos, Satanists, Wiccans, Kemets, and Athiests and Agnostics.

 

Why should any religion have the right to mandate politics based on a BOOK. A BOOK that was written by men, not a mythical sky fairy.

 

Politics and government should be based purely on common sense and logical rationale not based on an article of faith that has been proved failable over and over again.

NO NO NO!!! You are free to pray anytime, anyplace you want. What you are not free to do is use government resources to force ANY particular religion on everyone else. As a member of a religion that has endured a fair amount of bigotry of the years, I have a particular sensitivity to this issue.

 

When valedictorians wanted to bring Christ into their personal speeches they were not allowed to do so. When Christian pastors want to mention Christ in their speeches to open legislature sessions, they are not allowed to do so.

 

There are times that people are not allowed to pray as they like.

Absolutely, I agree with it. That poster is a scholar and a gentlemen.

 

Religion has absolutely no place in politics. Our country is one of the most diverse in the world. We have thousands upon thousands of citizens who worship religions other than Christianity. We have Muslims, Hindus, Daoists, Shintos, Satanists, Wiccans, Kemets, and Athiests and Agnostics.

 

Why should any religion have the right to mandate politics based on a BOOK. A BOOK that was written by men, not a mythical sky fairy.

 

Politics and government should be based purely on common sense and logical rationale not based on an article of faith that has been proved failable over and over again.

 

Why do we mandate politics based on a DOCUMENT that was written by men over 200 years ago?

 

And give me one instance of Christianity being proved failable (not sure that is the correct spelling) over and over again? You won't be able to.

 

You might find instances of humans being fallible, but you won't find instances of Christianity based on the Bible being fallible.

When valedictorians wanted to bring Christ into their personal speeches they were not allowed to do so. When Christian pastors want to mention Christ in their speeches to open legislature sessions, they are not allowed to do so.

 

There are times that people are not allowed to pray as they like.

 

 

In a public forum. And we all know how much importance Jesus placed on public prayer.