Hard to run a coach off that has always been to the region. If the old coach would have beaten Grant Co 2 years ago they would have kept him, hard to fire a winner. She beat Grant last year in the first round, not sure how but she did.

Hard to run a coach off that has always been to the region. If the old coach would have beaten Grant Co 2 years ago they would have kept him, hard to fire a winner. She beat Grant last year in the first round, not sure how but she did.

 

Last year was WV's first non winning season in quite a few years.

See even Gallatin saw the advantage of hiring a coach who knew the girls and that is an asset to their team. As for the parents and fans of WV, I believe most of the parents were excited about a new coach because quite a few had made it know that they didn't care for Lubbe's coaching methods. I believe the new coach had the majority of the support from the parents and administration in the first year but now that year 2 has rolled around I believe alot of the parents and fans would love to see another coaching change. No changes or improvement from the last year.

No matter what you say, the coach IS the LEADER of the team otherwise, why have one? Look at a good team, it equals a good coach!

Whether or not they cared for Luebbe's coaching methods, he was a winner. I bet they wish he was back at the helm.

Hard to run a coach off that has always been to the region. If the old coach would have beaten Grant Co 2 years ago they would have kept him, hard to fire a winner. She beat Grant last year in the first round, not sure how but she did.

 

Allknower, I am a little confused on this post? What are you meaning? Just curious.

Coach Rosen is from Belfry High School. She was an Asst Coach under Cindy Stuart-Halbert for 3-4 years, first at Allen Central High School then at Pikeville High School.

 

I am shocked that she is having trouble as she has a good basketball mind.

 

What are the main problems? Discipline, work ethic, what?

I'm just saying if Grant would have lost a few years ago i think Luebbe would still be there. Also she beat Grant last year to go to the region, that makes class A schools happy when they make the region. People should remember you play for the post season not the regular season. If she wins again she will be fine but they do have a lot of young talent, i hear, that should bring home some hardware. I have a daughter and i will say she wont be going to Walton right now but we have a few years to wait and see what happens. Who knows she may go to Williamstown and play in the band.

Hard to run a coach off that has always been to the region. If the old coach would have beaten Grant Co 2 years ago they would have kept him, hard to fire a winner. She beat Grant last year in the first round, not sure how but she did.

 

Grant County was coached by Bert Richey (an outstanding basketball mind)when they beat a very good Walton team coached by Luebbe. That loss surely did not have anything to do with Luebbe not returning I would think. The Grant County team and program has turned around thanks to Richey.

I'm just saying if Grant would have lost a few years ago i think Luebbe would still be there. Also she beat Grant last year to go to the region, that makes class A schools happy when they make the region. People should remember you play for the post season not the regular season. If she wins again she will be fine but they do have a lot of young talent, i hear, that should bring home some hardware. I have a daughter and i will say she wont be going to Walton right now but we have a few years to wait and see what happens. Who knows she may go to Williamstown and play in the band.

 

I'm pretty close with the Walton programs, and I don't think that's why the former Coach was let go. It had nothing to do with the lost to Grant. Grant did have a solid team, during those years, and I'm sure that's not the reason!

 

I understand that you play for the post season, but you can't get the girls down during the regular season, because then the team will just give up. I think it's very important to have a solid regular season, so the team has the mind set, to come into the post season with the right attitude. If you keep losing, and under achieve, the girls will soon not believe they can beat anyone. For the district that Walton play's in, I don't think there will be ever a good reason why they won't make the Regional Tournament each year. They normally will play Grant or Williamstown each year, first round. From what I see, they match up well with both teams each year, and probably will forever. To make Regional Tournament is nice, don't get me wrong, but Walton can do better than just that. They should be able to make it far in region and contend. The School knows that! And that’s where Walton is at, at this point into the season; they don't believe they can beat teams.

 

The band comment, well, that's classic!

Williamstown has a young team and an excellent coach so I would not want to count them out come tournament time. I think you could say the same about Grant County.

I'm pretty close with the Walton programs, and I don't think that's why the former Coach was let go. It had nothing to do with the lost to Grant. Grant did have a solid team, during those years, and I'm sure that's not the reason!

 

I understand that you play for the post season, but you can't get the girls down during the regular season, because then the team will just give up. I think it's very important to have a solid regular season, so the team has the mind set, to come into the post season with the right attitude. If you keep losing, and under achieve, the girls will soon not believe they can beat anyone. For the district that Walton play's in, I don't think there will be ever a good reason why they won't make the Regional Tournament each year. They normally will play Grant or Williamstown each year, first round. From what I see, they match up well with both teams each year, and probably will forever. To make Regional Tournament is nice, don't get me wrong, but Walton can do better than just that. They should be able to make it far in region and contend. The School knows that! And that’s where Walton is at, at this point into the season; they don't believe they can beat teams.

 

The band comment, well, that's classic!

I really can't believe this thread has gone on this long!! The same thing has been said over and over again for over 4 pages now. Don't you think it has gone on long enough? It's obvious that many on here are unhappy with the current coach. Do you really believe that bashing the coach continuously on BGP is going to change anything?? Most people who read what you all are saying just sit back and say, "I'm glad that I don't have to deal with the parents at that school". I am not assuming that most of the people on here who are bashing the coach are parents or players because that would be a violation and who you are really doesn't matter but I will ask this question. Do many of you get outside of the 8th region much? The reason I say this is I have the luxury of seeing teams from all over the state play as well as teams from Ohio and if you all really believe that this team is good enough to contend for a region title, regardless of who the coach is, the 8th region is weak or you are blinded by loyalty.

 

As I stated earlier in this thread, I have seen Walton on more than one occassion and they do have 2 nice players with good supporting players but they are by no means a powerful team. They are an average team who will be able to compete with other average teams. I am by no means being negative towards the players at Walton, just stating what I have seen. In the games I saw the coach played around 10 players so I could see the amount of talent that is there. Is she the best coach in the world? Probably not but she was not bad either from what I saw. She did try to make adjustments during the game and tried to get the players to work hard. Did I see some things that I might have done differently? Sure, but we all see things from the outside that we would do differently if we were sitting there. Everyone goes through growing pains as a coach and you get better each game but let me say this, whether I agreed with everything she did or not, she did nothing that led me to believe that coaching cost Walton those games. A coach can give the players every tool to be successful but the bottom line is the PLAYERS have to execute it. If your players have trouble playing against high pressure, as they did in the games I saw, no press breaker in the world will solve that.

 

Coaches often get too much credit or too much blame. Most coaches will tell you this. The team with the most talent wins 95% of the time. In their 6 losses this year they were beaten by an average of 16 points. Even a great coach wouldn't change that. Their closest loss was 7 points. A great coach may have helped in that one but there are no guarantees. It still all comes down to the players' ability to execute what the coach gives them.

 

Parents are either a program's biggest support system OR biggest cancer. Sadly, the latter is often the case and it appears that it may be here as well. The worst thing they do is give their kids an excuse for why things aren't going the way they think it should. I call it "little league parent syndrome". The parent thinks their child hung the moon and is the best thing since sliced bread. If they don't get the playing time or position the parent thinks they deserve then it's someone else's fault, usually the coach. They are so blinded by love that they cannot see or accept the reality. With my kids I always told them if they were unhappy with their playing time then they had to work harder than everyone else. If they are still better than you, then accept that and make the best of every opportunity you get. That's the way life is. There is almost always someone out there who is better at what you do than you are. And remember, at the high school level the best players play regardless of their age. We all have our roles. The sooner they learn that the better.

 

Bottom line: Be a SUPPORTER not a cancer. The players read this crap.

 

I really wish someone would close this thread!!

I really can't believe this thread has gone on this long!! The same thing has been said over and over again for over 4 pages now. Don't you think it has gone on long enough? It's obvious that many on here are unhappy with the current coach. Do you really believe that bashing the coach continuously on BGP is going to change anything?? Most people who read what you all are saying just sit back and say, "I'm glad that I don't have to deal with the parents at that school". I am not assuming that most of the people on here who are bashing the coach are parents or players because that would be a violation and who you are really doesn't matter but I will ask this question. Do many of you get outside of the 8th region much? The reason I say this is I have the luxury of seeing teams from all over the state play as well as teams from Ohio and if you all really believe that this team is good enough to contend for a region title, regardless of who the coach is, the 8th region is weak or you are blinded by loyalty.

 

As I stated earlier in this thread, I have seen Walton on more than one occassion and they do have 2 nice players with good supporting players but they are by no means a powerful team. They are an average team who will be able to compete with other average teams. I am by no means being negative towards the players at Walton, just stating what I have seen. In the games I saw the coach played around 10 players so I could see the amount of talent that is there. Is she the best coach in the world? Probably not but she was not bad either from what I saw. She did try to make adjustments during the game and tried to get the players to work hard. Did I see some things that I might have done differently? Sure, but we all see things from the outside that we would do differently if we were sitting there. Everyone goes through growing pains as a coach and you get better each game but let me say this, whether I agreed with everything she did or not, she did nothing that led me to believe that coaching cost Walton those games. A coach can give the players every tool to be successful but the bottom line is the PLAYERS have to execute it. If your players have trouble playing against high pressure, as they did in the games I saw, no press breaker in the world will solve that.

 

Coaches often get too much credit or too much blame. Most coaches will tell you this. The team with the most talent wins 95% of the time. In their 6 losses this year they were beaten by an average of 16 points. Even a great coach wouldn't change that. Their closest loss was 7 points. A great coach may have helped in that one but there are no guarantees. It still all comes down to the players' ability to execute what the coach gives them.

 

Parents are either a program's biggest support system OR biggest cancer. Sadly, the latter is often the case and it appears that it may be here as well. The worst thing they do is give their kids an excuse for why things aren't going the way they think it should. I call it "little league parent syndrome". The parent thinks their child hung the moon and is the best thing since sliced bread. If they don't get the playing time or position the parent thinks they deserve then it's someone else's fault, usually the coach. They are so blinded by love that they cannot see or accept the reality. With my kids I always told them if they were unhappy with their playing time then they had to work harder than everyone else. If they are still better than you, then accept that and make the best of every opportunity you get. That's the way life is. There is almost always someone out there who is better at what you do than you are. And remember, at the high school level the best players play regardless of their age. We all have our roles. The sooner they learn that the better.

 

Bottom line: Be a SUPPORTER not a cancer. The players read this crap.

 

I really wish someone would close this thread!!

We have winner!!!!:banana: Very well said.:thumb:

This one is done.