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Nick Saban: 9/11, Pearl Harbor, and Auburn

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No, he was trying to explain that you come together after something happens to you, in the way our nation did. Thats it in a nutshell. Maybe he shouldn't have used war symbols, but i'm not stupid and when I saw it I agreed with him and thought it was well stated.

 

So now you bashers I'll take on the sin of this man and let y'all come down on me, oh wait I used analogy of our LORD and Savior....So cast the first stone.

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All of this kind of reminds me of an Abe Lemons story I once read. (Lemons was one time College Basketball coach at Texas in the late 70's and early 80's)

 

It was around '82 or so and John McEnroe was the #1 ranked Tennis player in the world. One day in a news conferece Mac went off and said: "Nobody knows the pressure I have to live under being the #1 ranked tennis player in the world."

 

In response, Abe Lemons told reporters:

 

You know, when I was on Iwo Jima and had my face buried in that volcanic dirt, bullets flying overhead and bombs going off everywhere I thought to myself, "Well, thank God I'm not the #1 Tennis Player in the World."

 

:lol:

Alabama, how do you KNOW exactly what was said or meant by it? Do you know what the lottery numbers are? What did he eat tonight? How are his kids doing in school? How, on this God's green earth, could you know EXACTLY what the man meant? Are you on quick dial with the guy?

 

How many nights did you stand guard or walk patrol after a FOOTBALL game? How many nights do you reckon your apparent cross hanger Saban did?

 

AND as far as the typing slow crap? Is Alabama the education meca of the south now?

 

I'm guessing he could have said something different, but I'm willing to say Don Imus wished he called in sick the day he decided to be stupid, too! What you mean or don't mean, when you are in a position like his, better be crystal clear, just from this stupid Hillbilly's point of view, of course.

(It's ranting when your man says it, but IT'S something different if one of us said it, right?)

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No, he was trying to explain that you come together after something happens to you, in the way our nation did. Thats it in a nutshell. Maybe he shouldn't have used war symbols, but i'm not stupid and when I saw it I agreed with him and thought it was well stated.

 

So now you bashers I'll take on the sin of this man and let y'all come down on me, oh wait I used analogy of our LORD and Savior....So cast the first stone.

 

Thump, thump.

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All of this kind of reminds me of an Abe Lemons story I once read. (Lemons was one time College Basketball coach at Texas in the late 70's and early 80's)

 

It was around '82 or so and John McEnroe was the #1 ranked Tennis player in the world. One day in a news conferece Mac went off and said: "Nobody knows the pressure I have to live under being the #1 ranked tennis player in the world."

 

In response, Abe Lemons told reporters:

 

You know, when I was on Iwo Jima and had my face buried in that volcanic dirt, bullets flying overhead and bombs going off everywhere I thought to myself, "Well, thank God I'm not the #1 Tennis Player in the World."

 

:lol:

 

That's funny.

Daddy, I explained over and over between Analogy and comparison and they still want to bash the MAN..notice that I highlighted man, because he is a human and is not perfect. Have youn seen the 45 minutre press conference? Can you name one reporter from Alabama? Do you know the history of Kevin Scarbinski and Paul Finebaum.

 

Again I know what I saw and heard in the 45 minute PC and I thought what he said made sense...We all come together when times are bad...Its an Analogy not a comparison. The ESPN guys called him a dope as Coach talked about kids crying in the locker room...Hello....you see our coach get mad at the guy who kept asking?

 

I graduated from Iroquois High School in 1971 thats a Kentucky school.

 

81, my wife is a huge Card fan with three brothers one who was assistant football coach under Bob Weber, she also has four sons and I believe she knows coaches and football. She saw the press conference and she looked at me and said.."those people on BGPs and ESPN missed the whole symbol". Now I'm known to be a hardcore Bama fan and I get in trouble at work, church, in stores, and on the internet. I don't see things like her,lied, stolen things, and sometimes not very honest....but this girl is not like me, is an exact opposite. And when she said that brother she meant it.

I still know how it sounds.

Maybe he should reinterate what he meant.

HE does have a history of saying things and not meaning them also, does he not????

You have to admit he is not above saying things and meaning NOTHING by them.

May he choose words and turn phrases more wisely from now on, and not allow different translations to seep in. Still kind of dumb to ever try to compare, or symbolize, something like an upset game into the same context as the aftermath of the lives and futures of those affected by what happened on Dec. 7, 1941 and Sep. 11, 2001. No comparison. If those kids ever get into the situation it is compared to, they will see how it pales in comparison. Saban will NEVER face a situation like he compared it to. May he never face the events or aftermath of something like that.

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Again I know what I saw and heard in the 45 minute PC and I thought what he said made sense...We all come together when times are bad...Its an Analogy not a comparison. .

 

Uhhh?

 

http://encarta.msn.com/thesaurus_561565132/analogy.html

 

You're not going to tell me "it depends on what the definition of is is" are you?

Analogy....the inference that CERTAIN resemblances imply FUTHER Similiarity.

 

Comparison...to examine for similarities or differences.

 

Feel free to check out Tidefans.com a free site and you can see it from people who actually know of the reporters who love to bash Bama and our program.

Larry, while I like the tide and Saban I have a problem and stated in the high school forum a couple of years ago about people saying this game is going to be a war, or we're gonna have a battle on our hands. At the time my stepson was serving in Iraq and Afganastan and was in battles and a war. I was a little touchy in that area. So I hope you can understand people having a problem with what Nick said.

Analogy....the inference that CERTAIN resemblances imply FUTHER Similiarity.

 

Comparison...to examine for similarities or differences.

 

Feel free to check out Tidefans.com a free site and you can see it from people who actually know of the reporters who love to bash Bama and our program.

 

Actually, Larry...not to nitpick, but comparison, technically, is for similarities...contrast is for differences, hence compare and contrast. :cool::lol:

 

Although, you're correct in that we often (mis)use comparison to do both.

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Feel free to check out Tidefans.com a free site and you can see it from people who actually know of the reporters who love to bash Bama and our program.

 

I don't understand how the reporters fit into this discussion unless you are saying he didn't say what was reported. I asked this previously and you seemed to say he said what he said but he didn't mean what it sounded like.

 

So, how do the reporters fit into this situation if they reported what he actually said?

Daddy, I explained over and over between Analogy and comparison and they still want to bash the MAN..notice that I highlighted man, because he is a human and is not perfect. Have youn seen the 45 minutre press conference? Can you name one reporter from Alabama? Do you know the history of Kevin Scarbinski and Paul Finebaum.

 

Again I know what I saw and heard in the 45 minute PC and I thought what he said made sense...We all come together when times are bad...Its an Analogy not a comparison. The ESPN guys called him a dope as Coach talked about kids crying in the locker room...Hello....you see our coach get mad at the guy who kept asking?

 

I graduated from Iroquois High School in 1971 thats a Kentucky school.

 

81, my wife is a huge Card fan with three brothers one who was assistant football coach under Bob Weber, she also has four sons and I believe she knows coaches and football. She saw the press conference and she looked at me and said.."those people on BGPs and ESPN missed the whole symbol". Now I'm known to be a hardcore Bama fan and I get in trouble at work, church, in stores, and on the internet. I don't see things like her,lied, stolen things, and sometimes not very honest....but this girl is not like me, is an exact opposite. And when she said that brother she meant it.

 

Again, nobody misinterperted, failed to capture the symbol, etc. to what he said or how he was trying to say it. It is pretty simple listening to him. Same goes for the administration of Alabama that had to release a statement about the comments.

 

His analogy was, on many levels correct. However, the fact he used those events to make his analogy is what people find so bad.

Again, nobody misinterperted, failed to capture the symbol, etc. to what he said or how he was trying to say it. It is pretty simple listening to him. Same goes for the administration of Alabama that had to release a statement about the comments.

 

His analogy was, on many levels correct. However, the fact he used those events to make his analogy is what people find so bad.

 

:thumb:

 

Seems pretty easy to me....

9-11 and Pearl Harbor are not going away. When these things happened they were the worst thing that could have happened to us. They will aways be there, he wasn't comparing losing to ULM to these horrible events, but what did our nation do? They rose up and took care of business. We were at the bottom after these attacks, we got together and united our selves, like a person who is an alcoholic, we or they after hitting rock bottom have to pull together as one and bring your self back up. Now when he metioned the Alcoholic as hitting "rock Bottom" where is the bashing? Is he against those people? He was using an Analogy.

 

These events will be a part of us and in looking back I wished he had just used the alcoholic as an analogy to show how the team is at rock bottom and have to be united as one.

 

Nobody wanted to pull my quote about the Coach being a human and not perfect. "Cast the first stone" I believe needs to be explained to you people and boy I'd love to share that with y'all, you just want to bash the man because you don't care for him and you see blood and can't let it go. I feel sorry for y'alls "over reaction".

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