October 3, 200718 yr I would suggest if the school facilities are that bad, than have Chris Collinsworth raise money for the buildings instead of a football field. I am sorry BF, but no tears will be cried for Highlands about lacking funds when parents are raising money for an artificial football turf while other districts are going without necessary computers. You made a point that the politicians bought into a wrong mindset. THAt is not accurate. The legal system ruled the KY funding system unconstitutional and ruled that the legislature had to come up with another system. So it was the judicial system that said no to the other system before it was the legislature. This just confirms that, unfortunately, you have a complete lack of understanding of the situation in Ft. Thomas. So, I really don't know what response would clarify it for you. And make no mistake about it, it was POLITICIANS that got it started, and got it done.
October 3, 200718 yr He has done a great job raising funds and getting involved. And I think that helps your point. These are resources that Highlands will have that Wolfe County does not. So beyond the tax base difference the volunteer financial difference is major. And yet, the state is constitutionally required to give the same opportunity to the students in Wolfe County as is given in Highlands. The one weird and difficult thing about education is that there are too many chiefs. The local board is a chief that makes decisions about how to educate the child. The state board is a chief that makes decisions about how to educate the child. The state legislature is a chief that makes decisions about how to educate the child. The governor is a chief that makes decisions about how to educate the child. The Congress is a chief that makes decisions about how to educate the child. The President is a chief that makes decisions about how to educate the child.
October 3, 200718 yr We're trying to have a discussion but you keep avoiding it. I say the current system, while needing adjustments, is right in theory. You have YET to give any sort of answer to the #1 reason we've gone to this system: equity for poor schools.:sleep: This is getting tiresome. Let's just focus on the original point of the thread: CATS testing.
October 3, 200718 yr :sleep: This is getting tiresome. Let's just focus on the original point of the thread: CATS testing. Nice.
October 3, 200718 yr This just shows that, unfortunately, you have a complete lack of understanding of the situation in Ft. Thomas. So, I really don't know what response would clarify it for you. And make no mistake about it, it was POLITICIANS that got it started, and got it done. Not true on the last. The superintendents and board of educations of over 100 school districts sued the state of Kentucky over the funding question. Judge Ray Corns ruled in their favor and told the legislature that the funding system is unconstitutional and they needed a new funding system that made every kid in the state receive comparable funding in the state public school system. If my understanding is incorrect, I love to be educated and not be incorrect. Please tell me. And I am not being sarcastic and please don't take it as such. I have been enlightened on a lot of matters concerning private school education and have a better understanding and view of it. I would like to have the same opportunity to learn more about Highlands and if the perception is different I will gladly change my view. But I think the perception is fair that you won't receive a lot sympathy for the funding plight of Highlands when it is all over the media about a $$$$$$$$$$ artificial turf being put on the football field.
October 3, 200718 yr Not true on the last. The superintendents and board of educations of over 100 school districts sued the state of Kentucky over the funding question. Judge Ray Corns ruled in their favor and told the legislature that the funding system is unconstitutional and they needed a new funding system that made every kid in the state receive comparable funding in the state public school system.You seriously don't think politics entered into the equation? The judiciary is an impartial body, but politics makes the world go around--especially in Kentucky.
October 3, 200718 yr You seriously don't think politics entered into the equation? The judiciary is an impartial body, but politics makes the world go around--especially in Kentucky. If the courts had not ruled it unconstitutional, I don't think the legislature makes a change.
October 3, 200718 yr But I think the perception is fair that you won't receive a lot sympathy for the funding plight of Highlands when it is all over the media about a $$$$$$$$$$ artificial turf being put on the football field.It's apples and oranges. And to tell you the truth, no one asked for sympathy. But that does nothing to make the SEEK formula fair. As has already been pointed out, we have private funds being raised for all sorts of things--because we have to. The football field (which is smillar to those found all over the state) just happens to be one of the more visible examples.
October 3, 200718 yr It's apples and oranges. And to tell you the truth, no one asked for sympathy. But that does nothing to make the SEEK formula fair. As has already been pointed out, we have private funds being raised for all sorts of things--because we have to. The football field (which is smillar to those found all over the state) just happens to be one of the more visible examples. Depending on your definition of all over the state. Do you think there are more than 10 schools in the state with artificial turf? When the superintendents of Highlands and Beechwood and the like get on the television and in the newspaper going on about their poor school districts that do not have enough funding and then you see a story a few minutes later about Highlands spending a half to a million dollars on a football field, the first story is not going to ring true TO THOSE THAT DON'T realize that is two different pots of money.
October 3, 200718 yr Depending on your definition of all over the state. Do you think there are more than 10 schools in the state with artificial turf? I believe there has to be more than ten non-grass fields in the state now. There are four just in NKY. When the superintendents of Highlands and Beechwood and the like get on the television and in the newspaper going on about their poor school districts that do not have enough funding and then you see a story a few minutes later about Highlands spending a half to a million dollars on a football field, the first story is not going to ring true TO THOSE THAT DON'T realize that is two different pots of money.I don't really care how it looks. I care about the reality of the situation. Also, it didn't cost a million dollars.
October 3, 200718 yr Depending on your definition of all over the state. Do you think there are more than 10 schools in the state with artificial turf? When the superintendents of Highlands and Beechwood and the like get on the television and in the newspaper going on about their poor school districts that do not have enough funding and then you see a story a few minutes later about Highlands spending a half to a million dollars on a football field, the first story is not going to ring true TO THOSE THAT DON'T realize that is two different pots of money. Yes, I do think there are more than 10 schools in the state. I can think of five within a 10 mile radius. Lets not forget the schools that are building multi-million dollar sports facilaties. I can't think of the name of the school at the moment, but in the football forum there was a school that put in field turf, new locker rooms, new stands,and a new track. Read about it this summer. Heck they may have added a weight room and indoor practice area. I'll try and search that. How are they doing it? Is it private money or is the state providing it?:confused:
October 3, 200718 yr Yes, I do think there are more than 10 schools in the state. I can think of five within a 10 mile radius. Lets not forget the schools that are building multi-million dollar sports facilities.... Other than those widely known and in the NKY area, here are a few. List more, if known. Pikeville - football & baseball field Shelby Valley - football field Belfry - football field Letcher Central - football field Johnson Central - football field Knott County - baseball field
October 3, 200718 yr I can think of five within a 10 mile radius.HHS Cov Cath Newport/NCC Beechwood Okay, who am I forgetting?
October 3, 200718 yr Pikeville - football & baseball field Shelby Valley - football field Belfry - football field Letcher Central - football field Johnson Central - football field Knott County - baseball field Add these to the four or five in our area, throw in Lex Cath and you're already over ten.
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