October 2, 200718 yr That's funny because SEEK guarantees that there is the same amount of support for kids all across the state. That those kids who do not live in areas where financially they can have more support, do not receive a lesser education than those that do.Yeah, now they've assured that it's the other way around. Gotta love the "Robin Hood" strategy!
October 2, 200718 yr And imagine that the work that you do everyday is determined by this system. People are fired because of this system. Decisions on how to educate children are determined because of this system. What was it the article said? In the approximate 10 years of the testing, they have changed how it is scored 3 times. Once we learn what they want us to do, they change it. You speak only the truth there!!!
October 2, 200718 yr Yeah, now they've assured that it's the other way around. Gotta love the "Robin Hood" strategy! So, the kids in the more affluent areas where the property tax dollars are flowing should get more than the those in poorer areas? They should not have access to an equitable education which is guaranteed to the children of Kentucky as mandated by the Kentucky Supreme Court, because mommy and daddy live where they do? How is the view from that "ivory tower"? Presently, Kentucky has 29 of the top 100 poorest counties in the country based on annual median household income. SEEK needs to be tweaked...yes it does...however I do like the premise of the original content. The politicians of the state have failed the state in regards to funding. All one needs to do is look at all the programs that was created with KERA and look at how may died because of funding issues.
October 2, 200718 yr So, the kids in the more affluent areas where the property tax dollars are flowing should get more than the those in poorer areas? They should not have access to an equitable education which is guaranteed to the children of Kentucky as mandated by the Kentucky Supreme Court, because mommy and daddy live where they do?This is the problem with SEEK. Too many short-sighted and frankly, selfish, politicians have bought into these false beliefs. Actually, we are being punished because we go the extra mile and actually care about our schools enough to fund them properly. :irked: Seek is just a pathetic attempt to take money away from those who help their local schools, so that others don't have to.
October 2, 200718 yr So, the kids in the more affluent areas where the property tax dollars are flowing should get more than the those in poorer areas? So those in poorer areas should get a greater piece of the pie from revenues, which they in no way helped generate (or at least not in the proportion they are receiving)? That is really equitable.
October 2, 200718 yr This is the problem with SEEK. Too many short-sighted and frankly, selfish, politicians have bought into these false beliefs. Actually, we are being punished because we go the extra mile and actually care about our schools enough to fund them properly. :irked: Seek is just a pathetic attempt to take money away from those who help their local schools, so that others don't have to. You care enough to fund them properly? You care more than the folks in Bellevue and Dayton? Did I miss the survey? Name the schools in NKY that don't care as much as Ft Thomas people do. You are fortunate that you live in an area that has lots of wealth which means valuable property which means property tax. The "we care more" than these unnamed "others" is tiresome.
October 2, 200718 yr So those in poorer areas should get a greater piece of the pie from revenues, which they in no way helped generate (or at least not in the proportion they are receiving)? That is really equitable. Do you put money in the collection plate at church?
October 2, 200718 yr The "we care more" than these unnamed "others" is tiresome.Tiresome, but true. And I did NOT point to any particular school or place; but there's no doubt that there are places, and there are schools for which this is true.
October 2, 200718 yr Tiresome, but true. And I did NOT point to any particular school or place; but there's no doubt that there are places, and there are schools for which this is true. Name them.
October 2, 200718 yr This is the problem with SEEK. Too many short-sighted and frankly, selfish, politicians have bought into these false beliefs. Actually, we are being punished because we go the extra mile and actually care about our schools enough to fund them properly. :irked: Seek is just a pathetic attempt to take money away from those who help their local schools, so that others don't have to. So I assume you will be on the next flight to sub-Saharan African country and tell those souls that where they are living, it is nothing but sand, nothing grows in sand...move to where the food is. So an innocent first grader must pay for the ills of their family? Alrighty then....
October 2, 200718 yr So those in poorer areas should get a greater piece of the pie from revenues, which they in no way helped generate (or at least not in the proportion they are receiving)? That is really equitable. Education is not uniform. The social, political, and economic structure is different from community to community. School disricts vary because of what some schools must overcome to educate their population, from special education, to handicapped, to free and reduced lunch....simply it cannot be uniform if it is to be equitable. No community in the state of Kentucky has the right to impose an inferior education on its children, based on local political and economic conditions. Schools should be financed in a manner which will prevent the quality of a child's education from being dependent on the local tax effort.
October 2, 200718 yr So an innocent first grader must pay for the ills of their family? Alrighty then.... You beat me to it, Bro. Even if you truly believe that Covington folks don't "care" enough, by taking the stance that BF and others have taken, you are being punitive when it comes to the children of those folks. That would seem to go against the "I care more" mantra.
October 3, 200718 yr It's what happens when you let a politician educate your child. It's like having a mechanic take out your gallbladder. :thumb:
October 3, 200718 yr So I assume you will be on the next flight to sub-Saharan African country and tell those souls that where they are living, it is nothing but sand, nothing grows in sand...move to where the food is. So an innocent first grader must pay for the ills of their family? Alrighty then.... You're wanting to spin this to make your point. I'm not going to play along with that. I think the protesting sugggests that the truth has hit a nerve. The point, without the cute spin, is that areas like Ft. Thomas are being unfairly treated by the state under the SEEK plan. Simple as that.
October 3, 200718 yr Even if you truly believe that Covington folks don't "care" enough, by taking the stance that BF and others have taken, you are being punitive when it comes to the children of those folks. That would seem to go against the "I care more" mantra. Again, you're naming specific places that no one has named. Nobody said that others "don't care." The idea is that some school systems are being under-funded now because their tax-payers have voted to fund their schools the way they see fit.
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