Off the topic a bit but just found out that Covington Catholic was honored today as a NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND - BLUE RIBBON SCHOOL!

 

While wining State Athletic Titles is wonderful, the real reason so many parents send there young men to CovCath is seen above. Congrats Colonels, thank you Mr. Clines, Teachers and Staff....

 

Sports are for fun, an eduction, is for a liftime.....

Not dismissing the achievement, but they only had to pass in two categories...all students and white (non-hispanic) students.

I would bet the ranch they didn't have the minimum numbers criteria wise to have to meet the measurable objective for African-Americans, Hispanic, Asian, Limited English Proficiency, and With Disability.

Most large urban publics have to hit in all caegories.

Talk about an unfunded mandate...NCLB is for you.

What do you mean by "gap measurements?"

 

Not positive, and SS can correct me if I am wrong.

There are 8 Student Groups judged under NCLB. Each group must meet their annual measurable objective.

All students, no matter their race/ethnicity/economic are lumped into the All Students category.

Then the criteria is broken down into White (Non-Hispanic), African-Americans, Hispanic, Asian, Limited English Proficiency, Free/Reduced Lunch, and With Disability.

Some schools do not have enough students in each of the last 6 categories to qualify for that particular student group, so they are not judged in that particular group.

I'm only guessing with a fair amount of insurance that Highlands, Cov Cath, and Lex Cath, only had to meet the criteria for overall students and white's.

It is much easier to do than a school with a quantifiable number of minorities which are calculated.

Gaps usually refer to different groups having widely separated scores. For example, those students who qualify for free/reduced lunch vs. those that don't, those identified as gifted/talented vs. those that are not, males vs. females. You can see these by looking at the Performance Reports on KDE.

 

I think SS was referring to NCLB.

Ohio funds their schools completely different than Kentucky.

 

That has nothing to do with the question.

I think SS was referring to NCLB.

 

Ok...yet, schools are measured by more than those categories as far as gaps, on the CATS test.

Gaps usually refer to different groups having widely separated scores. For example, those students who qualify for free/reduced lunch vs. those that don't, those identified as gifted/talented vs. those that are not, males vs. females. You can see these by looking at the Performance Reports on KDE.

 

Am I incorrect in my thinking that this now an "either/or" recognition? My guess is that schools that might not have these "gaps" are being recognized on the "blue ribbon" side of the award while others might be on the "no child left behind" side. Correct?

Newport Independent doesn't receive jack from the Leevee.

Significant tax breaks on that place...little or no money is received from there.

 

I believe you are correct. I think the city as a whole is not getting what they thought.

I believe you are correct. I think the city as a whole is not getting what they thought.

 

I believe there is some type of time limit on that. After soo many years Newport will be receiving tax money from them. The tax incentive was to get the business to Newport but it isn't a forever thing. However, there is still alot more businesses in Newport than Ft. Thomas that do pay plenty of taxes.

On Fort Thomas' facilities plans.........they are wanting $31,537,093 for several things. Note this item exceeds the requirements of the Maximum Building Program for Typical High Schools as outlined in 702 KAR 1:001. The cost has been noted but is not included in the district's Unmet Needs Calculation. This item may be funded from other sources, but it is recommend that the district consider the "best practices" as outlined in the Kentucky School Facilities Planning Manual.

 

The estimated cost for the High School has been reduced since the total costs of renovation and additions to the high school, as noted, exceeds the cost of replacement of the faculty. As outlined in KAR 1:001 - Development of Facility Plan Needs Statement - Section 4 "For SFCC funding, the maximum budget for renovation shall not exceed 100 percent of the replacement cost."

 

On a side note, the Fort Thomas educational foundation is trying to raise 1.22 million in order to match a state grant of 1.22 million in January. Seems to me someone is buddy buddy with the state. :sssh: Not to talk bad about Fort Thomas, but they are demanding a lot of money from an already stretched Education Department.

 

Boy, the nerve of us wanting SOME of our money back. We are underfunded by MILLIONS since this garbage started. According to the KY Post Fort Thomas schools receive $1,523 per pupil less than average state revenue and local taxpayers contribute $1,928 more in local revenue, for a per-pupil imbalance of $3,451 relative to state averages. About 2200 students? That's about 7.6 million per year imbalance.

How are your funds being cut?

 

I believe that Ft Thomas schools recently had some money in their FSPK to build something/fix something and the superintendent sat on the ball...hence he was sent out the door.

 

Wrong. But that's for another thread.

Boy, the nerve of us wanting SOME of our money back. We are underfunded by MILLIONS since this garbage started. According to the KY Post Fort Thomas schools receive $1,523 per pupil less than average state revenue and local taxpayers contribute $1,928 more in local revenue, for a per-pupil imbalance of $3,451 relative to state averages. About 2200 students? That's about 7.6 million per year imbalance.

 

That is nothing compared to Campbell, Kenton, Boone, Fayette and Jefferson County school systems.

Not positive, and SS can correct me if I am wrong.

There are 8 Student Groups judged under NCLB. Each group must meet their annual measurable objective.

All students, no matter their race/ethnicity/economic are lumped into the All Students category.

Then the criteria is broken down into White (Non-Hispanic), African-Americans, Hispanic, Asian, Limited English Proficiency, Free/Reduced Lunch, and With Disability.

Some schools do not have enough students in each of the last 6 categories to qualify for that particular student group, so they are not judged in that particular group.

I'm only guessing with a fair amount of insurance that Highlands, Cov Cath, and Lex Cath, only had to meet the criteria for overall students and white's.

It is much easier to do than a school with a quantifiable number of minorities which are calculated.

 

 

You are correct. The only real measures that have been hurtful to the NorKy schools are the gap issues in the disability criteria. The independent school districts do not have to carry the burden anywhere near the degree nor do they provide the services to a level to encourage retainment of such students.

 

Take this measurement away and then measure all your districts again under NCLB and "boom" major improvement on results.

The one area of note about the CATS scores that need to be noticed is the marked improvement in scores at the elementary school level. It is clear the investments and efforts on early child and reading are starting to pay off and these programs are only a couple of years old.

That is nothing compared to Campbell, Kenton, Boone, Fayette and Jefferson County school systems.

 

I'll bet it is per student. I know it's comparable per student to Boone. Total I wouldn't expect it to be given how much bigger those districts are. What are their numbers per student? Do you know where they can be found? I'd love to see every district in the state to see who the big winners and losers are.

I'm only guessing with a fair amount of insurance that Highlands, Cov Cath, and Lex Cath, only had to meet the criteria for overall students and white's.

It is much easier to do than a school with a quantifiable number of minorities which are calculated.

Why should they be judged on something they don't have in measurable numbers?