September 22, 200718 yr If ranked then not very high. Basically all I am trying to say is that if U of L lasses 4 to 5 games then Brohm has no chance at all of winning the award.
September 22, 200718 yr Then who has won the award from a non ranked team ???? Paul Horning played for a 2-8 team when he won the award. Here are some others that played on average teams: Playing on teams with four losses were four winners: YEAR WINNER SCHOOL OVERALL RECORD 1969 Steve Owens Oklahoma 6-4-0 1980 George Rogers South Carolina 8-4-0 1985 Bo Jackson Auburn 8-4-0 1987 Tim Brown Notre Dame 8-4-0 Playing on team with a .500 record was one winner: YEAR WINNER SCHOOL OVERALL RECORD 1935 Jay Berwanger Chicago 4-4-0 The only Heisman winner to play on a losing team. YEAR WINNER SCHOOL OVERALL RECORD 1956 Paul Hornung Notre Dame 2-8-0 source: http://www.heisman.com/handbook/team-winners.html
September 22, 200718 yr Do you think that the reason U of L was ranked so highly at the first of the season was because of Brohm???? Yes. They had a great season last year with most of the offensive firepower returning. I understand the logic...
September 22, 200718 yr Coach K has shown zero ability to stick with the run game at all. I guess he didn't watch enough previous UL game tape to realize that's where they became so great under Petrino... Its hard to stick with the run game when your constantly playing from behind. I see where your coming from with this though.
September 22, 200718 yr Do you think that the reason U of L was ranked so highly at the first of the season was because of Brohm???? Brohm and the fact that last year they had a solid year and ended the year ranked high.
September 22, 200718 yr I knew how VERY bad our defense was before this game, but I am genuinely speechless....I have never seen a less-motivated defensive unit in my life...
September 22, 200718 yr GT, what do you think about UC's chances against the Cards? I know the D is stout. I completely forgot about UC and Rutgers on the schedule as well... I think that UC has a good chance of beating U of L due to them being able to put up points and their defense is probably better than any of the defense U of L has seen so far this year......
September 22, 200718 yr They still have an overpowering offense, but that secondary leaks like the Titanic.
September 22, 200718 yr Basically all I am trying to say is that if U of L lasses 4 to 5 games then Brohm has no chance at all of winning the award. THere have been 6 winners on teams with at least 4 defeats.
September 22, 200718 yr Paul Horning played for a 2-8 team when he won the award. Here are some others that played on average teams: Playing on teams with four losses were four winners: YEAR WINNER SCHOOL OVERALL RECORD 1969 Steve Owens Oklahoma 6-4-0 1980 George Rogers South Carolina 8-4-0 1985 Bo Jackson Auburn 8-4-0 1987 Tim Brown Notre Dame 8-4-0 Playing on team with a .500 record was one winner: YEAR WINNER SCHOOL OVERALL RECORD 1935 Jay Berwanger Chicago 4-4-0 The only Heisman winner to play on a losing team. YEAR WINNER SCHOOL OVERALL RECORD 1956 Paul Hornung Notre Dame 2-8-0 source: http://www.heisman.com/handbook/team-winners.html Good post.......
September 22, 200718 yr Author GT, what do you think about UC's chances against the Cards? I know the D is stout. I completely forgot about UC and Rutgers on the schedule as well... UC really slowed down the UL attack at Papa John's last year, but I'm skeptical still because it was the game Brohm returned from the thumb injury. I think Brian Kelly is twice the coach Mark Dantonio was, so they should much better be able to exploit the soft UL D. I think it will still be a tough game for UC to win, but UL is trying to sway me the other way pretty hard...
September 22, 200718 yr I think that UC has a good chance of beating U of L due to them being able to put up points and their defense is probably better than any of the defense U of L has seen so far this year...... UC has the ability to slow down UL for sure and ANY team has the ability to put up big points on the Car_s at this point.
September 22, 200718 yr And I have to agree with OR, we throw entirely too much inside the 15... Threw too much period IMO... Any word on Douglas yet?
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