August 3, 200719 yr Author It's sad to Braves players along with the fans. You are down 5-1, and go up 9-5 and lose it just like that. isNo reason to get in jams like that, Soriano has been very inconsistent and Wickman is well..Wickman. Dotel, Mahay, and Ring need to take Soriano's place until he can find his groove again. If not the Braves will not make the playoffs.
August 21, 200719 yr Author While it is understandable that Schuerholz and Cox want one last hurrah, the price paid is far too severe. And, most likely they won't win anyway. Of course, if they would have traded and gotten back Wainwright, Marquis, and Borowski for the pitching staff, there may have been a chance. The two pro Braves posters are loyal if not knowledgeable. However, those who are critical of the trades are correct. Surely, those who rate Renteria over Reyes are merely kidding. Loyalty is fine. Lack of objectivity is not. When discussing this stuff it is much preferrable to be objective than to be a homer. It is much more likely that you will be taken seriously. :walk: Jarrod S: .188BA, 2HR, 5RBI's. 17 games w/ Texas. Mark Teixeira: .288 9HR, 25RBI's, 18 games w/ ATL The only one I regret giving up is Beau Jones who still has a long way to go before he is proven MLB talent or anything.
August 21, 200719 yr Wait till about 2 or 3 years and Salty is going to be a stud thats when it will hurt.
August 21, 200719 yr Wait till about 2 or 3 years and Salty is going to be a stud thats when it will hurt. Tex is already a stud...
August 23, 200719 yr Just when is it that "Big Tex" is going to start leading the Braves to the playoffs? His production to date, though impressive to some, has not made the difference in any game to date and the Braves are losing ground at a rapid rate. Last night was a good example. Braves have the bases loaded and one out and up steps "Big Tex". What happens? Why, "Big Tex" strikes out. Next at bat, two outs and no one on base. "Big Tex" gets a bloop single to left but is stranded on first base. Move on to the ninth inning. "Big Tex" represents the tying run but, alas, he takes a called third strike ending the game and throws a temper tantrum. Fact is, "Big Tex", the ball was too close to take. This game reflects closely what "Big Tex" has done since the trade. He hits when it means little or nothing in the outcome of the game. But, when the game is on the line, don't expect much out of "Big Tex". And gametime is correct, Saltalamacchia didn't have too bad a game last night. The time to compare the trade is beginning after the 2008 season when, Saltalamacchia, Andrus, Harrison, and Jones are helping Texas and "Big Tex" and his big contract have moved on to Boston, New York, or Baltimore (his real home area). In the meantime, unless they teach him to pitch, "Big Tex" won't mean squat so far as playoffs are concerned this year or next year.
August 23, 200719 yr Author Just when is it that "Big Tex" is going to start leading the Braves to the playoffs? His production to date, though impressive to some, has not made the difference in any game to date and the Braves are losing ground at a rapid rate. Last night was a good example. Braves have the bases loaded and one out and up steps "Big Tex". What happens? Why, "Big Tex" strikes out. Next at bat, two outs and no one on base. "Big Tex" gets a bloop single to left but is stranded on first base. Move on to the ninth inning. "Big Tex" represents the tying run but, alas, he takes a called third strike ending the game and throws a temper tantrum. Fact is, "Big Tex", the ball was too close to take. This game reflects closely what "Big Tex" has done since the trade. He hits when it means little or nothing in the outcome of the game. But, when the game is on the line, don't expect much out of "Big Tex". And gametime is correct, Saltalamacchia didn't have too bad a game last night. The time to compare the trade is beginning after the 2008 season when, Saltalamacchia, Andrus, Harrison, and Jones are helping Texas and "Big Tex" and his big contract have moved on to Boston, New York, or Baltimore (his real home area). In the meantime, unless they teach him to pitch, "Big Tex" won't mean squat so far as playoffs are concerned this year or next year. Teixeira didn't strike out with the bases loaded last night, Arroyo jammed him with a fastball and he fouled out to 3rd. Guess you didn't watch the game.. And to say that Teixeira hasn't helped the Braves in any of their wins since the trade is also ridiculous. 9 homeruns and 26 RBI's isn't helping a team? Wow never heard of that one. , and to say the Braves are losing ground at a "rapid" rate is also laughable. Yes the division is pretty much gone but 2 games out of the WC is losing ground at a rapid rate?
August 23, 200719 yr I'll use baseball terminology here....Gentlemen, let's take the high and tight inside, brush-back jab comments, to the pm's. Here's a one time reminder, for all. 2. No disparaging, taunting, or boastful comments--especially between opponents trying to intimidate each other. This includes name calling or personal attacks toward any member, their username, or school. Also, keeping in mind the youth of our student athletes, excessive "bashing" is prohibited in the high school forums.
August 23, 200719 yr Teixeira didn't strike out with the bases loaded last night, Arroyo jammed him with a fastball and he fouled out to 3rd. Guess you didn't watch the game.. And to say that Teixeira hasn't helped the Braves in any of their wins since the trade is also ridiculous. 9 homeruns and 26 RBI's isn't helping a team? Wow never heard of that one. , and to say the Braves are losing ground at a "rapid" rate is also laughable. Yes the division is pretty much gone but 2 games out of the WC is losing ground at a rapid rate? Well, you are correct on one count. I didn't see "Big Tex" pop up when the game was on the line. I assumed he struck out since he has done so 21 times, often with runners in scoring position, since joining your Braves. On the other hand, "Big Tex", regardless of his meaningless production, has not been the difference in producing a Braves win. Check it out. Even in the game where he had 6 rbis (not to be confused with Saltalamacchia's 7 rbis last night), they would have won without any of his production. Solo homeruns in the ninth inning when you are down by 8 runs don't do a lot either. The fact is that "Big Tex" has been a nonentity in terms of wins and losses. And now they have "amended" their goal from winner to wildcard. If STRIKE3 had to edit your post I guess I upset you. I really didn't intend to do that. And, if my analysis is not correct, I would appreciate a reasoned and factual rebuttal.
August 23, 200719 yr Wait till about 2 or 3 years and Salty is going to be a stud thats when it will hurt. They already have McCann, who is only a year older than Saltalamaccia, and is already a major leage star. They will be fine without the salt-man.
August 24, 200719 yr Author I'll use baseball terminology here....Gentlemen, let's take the high and tight inside, brush-back jab comments, to the pm's. Here's a one time reminder, for all. Apologies on my part! Will take the high road from now on!
August 24, 200719 yr "Big Tex" hit a homerun tonight. It cut the Reds's lead from 5-1 to 5-2. However, when the game was on the line late and in extra innings, "Big Tex" struck out two more times. "Big Tex" is AWOL when the game is on the line. Braves with "Big Tex": won 10, lost 11. For many reasons, this is not a repeat of the Fred McGriff trade.
August 24, 200719 yr Braves with "Big Tex": won 10, lost 11. For many reasons, this is not a repeat of the Fred McGriff trade. The Crime Dog. Now there's a guy that was really clutch. He used to kill the Reds. I always wanted him on my team.
August 24, 200719 yr I'm sticking by this statement..... On the surface, this looks like a terrible trade. Which would be in keeping with the front office performance of late. The LAST thing Atlanta should have given up were pitching prospects. While their hitting has struggled at times this year, it's been far more consistent than their pitching.
August 24, 200719 yr I'm sticking by this statement..... You were correct before and you are still correct. I believe my criticism of the trade before it was made was valid and it is proving to be on target as the season progresses (regresses). As I stated before, it was a selfish trade by Schuerholz who hoped to get one more division championship to help polish his resume for consideration for the H of F. It didn't work and he seriously damaged the future of the team in the process. Perhaps some day he will end up in the Texas Ranger H of F.
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