Didn't mean to offend you, just stating my opinion. The analogy was comparing the likelihood of people not cheering at a football game, to the likelihood of people not cheering at a graduation, not comparing a graduation to a football game. I think the likelihood of fans not cheering at a football game is the same as the likelihood of people not cheering at a graduation. I have been to quite a few graduations, and I have yet to attend one that people did not cheer.

 

And as they say, there are idiots in every crowd..... but that doesn't make it right or fair to all.

 

Our society is getting less civil each day, and going toward from what is best for everyone, to what is best for me. I go to a nice restaurant and have to listen to someone talking on a cell phone all during dinner. I go to a movie and the idiots who have seen the movie before yell out what is going to happen next. I fly on a plane and have people listening to music so loud in the seat next to me that those three/four rows behind can hear it too. I have seen far too many drivers literally run another driver off the road, just to get ahead in traffic. Yes all of the above are a problem and it is getting worse. When someone in charge request you to follow certain rules/standard and you don't, then it is you who is out of line....not the rules..... But as I wrote at the beginning, there are idiots in every crowd and rules and standards were never meant for them to follow or so they think....the rules and standards are just for eveybody else....

holding their diplomas is taking it too far. But at our graduation (paducah tilghman) the cheering was annoying. I personally think the ceremony should be much more dignified than friends, relatives, and even a few students made it. I am very glad that no one yelled for me when walked across the stage

So if I understand this correctly, the youngsters are still graduates, still can go to college, still get their names announced AT graduation, still get to walk across the stage, still get to go party afterwards.

 

What's the issue? How are they being punished?

 

They didn't get the little piece of paper that goes inside the little graduation booklet. That's it.

 

How many of you know where your HG diploma is?

And as they say, there are idiots in every crowd..... but that doesn't make it right or fair to all.

 

Our society is getting less civil each day, and going toward from what is best for everyone, to what is best for me. I go to a nice restaurant and have to listen to someone talking on a cell phone all during dinner. I go to a movie and the idiots who have seen the movie before yell out what is going to happen next. I fly on a plane and have people listening to music so loud in the seat next to me that those three/four rows behind can hear it too. I have seen far too many drivers literally run another driver off the road, just to get ahead in traffic. Yes all of the above are a problem and it is getting worse. When someone in charge request you to follow certain rules/standard and you don't, then it is you who is out of line....not the rules..... But as I wrote at the beginning, there are idiots in every crowd and rules and standards were never meant for them to follow or so they think....the rules and standards are just for eveybody else....

 

Good post. :thumb:

Good post. :thumb:

 

Why thank you, and to answer your question of....."How many of you know where your HS diploma is?"

 

Funny you asked that, as I dug mine out to show my daughter my diploma and compare it with my her diploma. She graduated Thursday from NDA....

Mike McConnell on 700 WLW was talking about this. He said he thinks that if a students family and friends feel the need to scream and yell when they get their diploma, that it shows everyone else that they are suprised they graduated.

Well it shows how politically stupid some school systems have become. I think I smell lawsuits coming on.

Well it shows how politically stupid some school systems have become. I think I smell lawsuits coming on.

Why?

 

The students were informed of what would happen BEFORE the ceremony.

 

About a month before the May 27 ceremony, Galesburg High students and their parents had to sign a contract promising to act in dignified way. Violators were warned they could be denied their diplomas and barred from the after-graduation party.

 

The ACLU, who will litigate just about anything, said they don't have a case.

 

Should the idiots that have no respect for the ceremony or who are so selfish that it doesn't bother them if they ruin graduation for others be allowed to do as they please?

Why?

 

The students were informed of what would happen BEFORE the ceremony.

How is it the students fault that others cheered for them?

Why?

 

The students were informed of what would happen BEFORE the ceremony.

 

 

 

The ACLU, who will litigate just about anything, said they don't have a case.

 

Should the idiots that have no respect for the ceremony or who are so selfish that it doesn't bother them if they ruin graduation for others be allowed to do as they please?

I don't think I high school should EVER have the right to withhold a diploma from a student who has earned it.

And as they say, there are idiots in every crowd..... but that doesn't make it right or fair to all.

 

Our society is getting less civil each day, and going toward from what is best for everyone, to what is best for me. I go to a nice restaurant and have to listen to someone talking on a cell phone all during dinner. I go to a movie and the idiots who have seen the movie before yell out what is going to happen next. I fly on a plane and have people listening to music so loud in the seat next to me that those three/four rows behind can hear it too. I have seen far too many drivers literally run another driver off the road, just to get ahead in traffic. Yes all of the above are a problem and it is getting worse. When someone in charge request you to follow certain rules/standard and you don't, then it is you who is out of line....not the rules..... But as I wrote at the beginning, there are idiots in every crowd and rules and standards were never meant for them to follow or so they think....the rules and standards are just for eveybody else....

 

 

Great post.

 

If parents and family members can't be disciplined enough to shut their mouths up for two hours like they were instructed to do, its pitiful. There is no, and I mean no, justification for this type of behavior. Great, you're elated that your son or daughter graduated. If you can't control your emotions any better you are a terribly weak, undisciplined person.

 

I've got a feeling that Henry's observation about the families cheering the most, but doing the least to support the school is probably valid at 95% of the schools.

I will agree the cheering is uncalled for. I hadn't been to a graduation for years and went to a few several years back and was surprised when a few people felt it necesary to disrupt everyone elses evening with yelling. I wouldn't classify it as cheering it is yelling. I graduated in the early 70's when civil disobedience was the in thing and I sure don't remember anyone yelling at those.

There would never be a time that any of my family would yell their heads off at a graduation. I was raised by a single mother (our father died when we were very young) and we didn't have much growing up but one of the things that our mother instilled in us was class. It truly wouldn't make any difference what parents sign or what promises are made, the people who do all the screaming and carrying on will continue to act like this no matter what.

I am not 100% I agree with the holding of the diploma...but again, it is just a piece of paper. The kid graduates whether or not they get the actual paper.

 

How would you like your kid to be the one that follows the air horn? How would you like your kid to be the one that follows the profanity-laden, "It's about time!" yell? How long should the person reading the names wait before reading the next kids name? Doesn't that give the offender more of a platform?

 

I am glad that people are happy that their child has graduated. On the surface, I don't mind clapping, but for some reason people feel like they have to outdo each other and clapping becomes "hooping and hollaring", that becomes yelling things or using an air horn.

 

Again, maybe the person who made the "It's about time" statement needed to do more for the kid so that such a statement wasn't appropriate. Maybe the others needed to be a part of their kids education at some point. But it won't happen...these people just want to be be noticed.

That is nothing new they threatened to do that to us at Manual when I graduated. When we were handed our diploma covers they were empty we had to see the counselors after the gradation for the actual diploma papers, I remember that very clearly. And since then I have been at graduations at J-Town and Manual where family and graduates were escorted out the door for excessive celebration.

And while I feel that is a bit draconian I do think that graduation from High School should be a time of pomp and circumstance but also in this day in age it should be expected and there is no reason to celebrate during the ceremony like it is some be surprise or relief that you actually passed High school, celebrate when you get home. Graduating high school should be expected.