I noticed in another thread that this team 19. Cullman (Cullman, AL)44-7 had already played 51 games.I'm guessing since its a southern state school they get a jump on the season.Do you think this is good or bad for these kids to be playing that many games? This doesn't even include the finish of their season or post season play.:eek:

I noticed in another thread that this team 19. Cullman (Cullman, AL)44-7 had already played 51 games.I'm guessing since its a southern state school they get a jump on the season.Do you think this is good or bad for these kids to be playing that many games? This doesn't even included the finish of their season or post season play.:eek:

 

I think that if the coach is not playing the same players over and over it is okay. If it is getting some players that normally don't get quality playing time in the game, I think it is great. But if stats show them using the same catcher or a 4 man rotation of pitchers over and over...it is too many!

I tend to agree. There is no rest for these kids. I have seen that in the 8th region this year. Same kids night in and night out. It's not MLB. That's how injuries happen.

What do you think would be a correct number of games in a season????

I think 30 regular season, 40 post season is good. I think that is the limits that KHSAA has set too, not real sure.

KHSAA allows you to count 3 tournaments and counting variations, can differ. The total is 30 for '07 and 36 for '08. A team can actually play more than 30, but counting toward totals must equal 30.

 

I remember going to Florida, for spring break and playing in '80. Get off the bus, coach says "how many games have you played", Our reply "this is our first". He said, "this is our 28th".

 

I think the proposed limit of 36, will be a good change.

KHSAA allows you to count 3 tournaments and counting variations, can differ. The total is 30 for '07 and 36 for '08. A team can actually play more than 30, but counting toward totals must equal 30.

 

I remember going to Florida, for spring break and playing in '80. Get off the bus, coach says "how many games have you played", Our reply "this is our first". He said, "this is our 28th".

 

I think the proposed limit of 36, will be a good change.

 

But they're doing away with the tournament rules. It's game for game regardless if it's a tournament or not...

I don't mind the large number of games in states like AZ since you can spread them out due to better weather in winter and early spring.

Don't mind out of games but do need to spread them out. I know that one team in the 8th region played 7 games in 5 days and used the same players for each game. Way to many games in that many days if you ask me.

But they're doing away with the tournament rules. It's game for game regardless if it's a tournament or not...

Correct, each game played is counted, regardless of tournament or not.

So if 30 to 40 is good for the high school age, what does that say about the youth coaches who think 40 to 50 plus is good?

 

Reds medical doctor was on HBO Real Sports, a second time, and said any kid playing over 30 games a year under the age of 16 is a crime. That is playing, not pitching.

 

How does it add up to the summer team, with high school if summer plays an additional 30 to 40 games - now you have 60+ games from late March to July/August. Insane.

Those of you condemning the number of games in the summer, with all due respect to your opinion, don't know what you are talking about, at least in the older levels. Unlike the typical HS team which plays the same position players every game and pitches the same 1/2 dozen or so kids all spring, our summer team (17U) carries 20 players, 4 or so of which are pitchers only, 9 others also pitch, 16 players play positions, all have been chosen because they are good enough to play and will get to play at least 1/2 of the scheduled games each, again unlike most HS programs. Pitch counts and required rest are strictly monitored and followed. Players get better in the summer. They are seen by college coaches who may become interested in them for scholarship assistance as a result of this exposure. The competition is consistently better day in and day out. It is few and far between that your ace faces someone not close to him in ability. These older age groups are for kids who have a passion for the game and want to challenge themselves against the best teams around. No insanity in that.

A medical doctor who advanced more surgical repair of pitchers as young as 11 could not be qualified to speak against your opinion? OK:rolleyes:

A medical doctor who advanced more surgical repair of pitchers as young as 11 could not be qualified to speak against your opinion? OK:rolleyes:

 

 

An 11 year old who needed surgery must of been playing for an idiot with no instruction on how to throw or pitch .

A medical doctor who advanced more surgical repair of pitchers as young as 11 could not be qualified to speak against your opinion? OK:rolleyes:

 

 

Your own thread states "players under the age of 16" so you really have no argument with Webgems since his group is 17U. Also, MOST kids under the age of 16 either don't play high school ball yet or don't play as many games as a full varsity schedule might infer. Yes, there are unwise summer coaches/teams but to make a broad-brush condemnation of summer baseball is lludicrous and short-sighted. The bottom line is know who you kid is playing for and know what their policies for rest and injury are. Don't just be a bystander, claim not to "know what he's doing" and then wonder why there might be a problem. You know, I have another authority with impeccable credentials that says kids don't throw enough these days. It's all a matter of who you choose to believe in some cases.