Elliott showed me that he's in the conversation with Maile and Farris. Very impressive.

 

I still think it's a two man race. Wagner and Taylor.

I still think it's a two man race. Wagner and Taylor.

 

No offense to either outstanding young player but if its a 2-man race TODAY, neither are in it. Right or wrong.

No offense to either outstanding young player but if its a 2-man race TODAY, neither are in it. Right or wrong.

 

Actually, today both are pulling away.

I still think it's a two man race. Wagner and Taylor.

 

Are Wagner and Taylor going on to play baseball in college? If so, where?

Are Wagner and Taylor going on to play baseball in college? If so, where?

 

Both have offers but are undecieded.

Both have offers but are undecieded.

 

Where are they getting offers from? Good luck to both young men!

If you saw the CovCath Beechwood game today, you would realize why young Maile is without a doubt the POY in the Ninth Region. Sorry guy's, the kid can flat out hit, and can play the most important and most difficult position on the diamond. His tag of the Beechwood runner in the first inning was a thing of beauty, and a play most HS catchers can't make.... You would have had to see the play in person to appreciate how hard it was.....

 

 

I still will put Farris against Maile. As for hitting, yes, he hit one off the wall, so what. The play at the plate was routine for a good catcher especially w/a freshman who weighs 98#'s soaken wet running up against a brick wall.

 

Farris still gets my vote. If you take him away from Boone they are a completely diff. team, CCH w/out Maile, they are still real good. More importantly, take Elliott away from BHS, they are doomed. He pitches, plays CF, SS, 2B and he can hit w/the best of them also. Should be an interesting vote! All the kids mentioned can play the game of baseball.

OBP calculations do not include reaching base via error.

I use E's in my calculations, as I do not include Sac Flies, since the batter doesn't reach base....just my approach.

 

You can score, via being on base from an "E" but no chance, on a SF.

I use E's in my calculations, as I do not include Sac Flies, since the batter doesn't reach base....just my approach.

 

You can score, via being on base from an "E" but no chance, on a SF.

 

Makes sense.

 

Interestingly (or maybe not ), MLB actually does use Sac Flies in their OBP calculations, but it actually hurts the hitter. You take H + BB + HBP and divide this by AB (not Plate Appearances; official AB's - which already have BB, HBP, and SAC's eliminated) + BB + HBP + SF. The reasoning being that a hitter shouldn't be penalized when "giving up" his AB to lay down a sacrifice, while with a SF the hitter was trying to get on base and failed to do so (but nonetheless still accomplished something meaningful!).

 

OK, enough for now. That's probably more info. than you really wanted on that topic.

Makes sense.

 

Interestingly (or maybe not ), MLB actually does use Sac Flies in their OBP calculations, but it actually hurts the hitter. You take H + BB + HBP and divide this by AB (not Plate Appearances; official AB's - which already have BB, HBP, and SAC's eliminated) + BB + HBP + SF. The reasoning being that a hitter shouldn't be penalized when "giving up" his AB to lay down a sacrifice, while with a SF the hitter was trying to get on base and failed to do so (but nonetheless still accomplished something meaningful!).

 

OK, enough for now. That's probably more info. than you really wanted on that topic.

Are you kidding me, I could talk Baseball, stats and related formulas, all day long....Just ask Stickymitts.

 

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Makes sense.

 

Interestingly (or maybe not ), MLB actually does use Sac Flies in their OBP calculations, but it actually hurts the hitter. You take H + BB + HBP and divide this by AB (not Plate Appearances; official AB's - which already have BB, HBP, and SAC's eliminated) + BB + HBP + SF. The reasoning being that a hitter shouldn't be penalized when "giving up" his AB to lay down a sacrifice, while with a SF the hitter was trying to get on base and failed to do so (but nonetheless still accomplished something meaningful!).

 

OK, enough for now. That's probably more info. than you really wanted on that topic.

 

I think that's a fair and accurate way to measure it - and I am geeky that way too.

I still will put Farris against Maile. As for hitting, yes, he hit one off the wall, so what. The play at the plate was routine for a good catcher especially w/a freshman who weighs 98#'s soaken wet running up against a brick wall.

 

Farris still gets my vote. If you take him away from Boone they are a completely diff. team, CCH w/out Maile, they are still real good. More importantly, take Elliott away from BHS, they are doomed. He pitches, plays CF, SS, 2B and he can hit w/the best of them also. Should be an interesting vote! All the kids mentioned can play the game of baseball.

 

If that play at the plate was so routine, then why didn't the BW catcher make a play at the plate that was much easier, later in the game? Having a kid coming down on you no matter how small he is, while you are waiting for the ball, then tagging a sliding player as you catch the ball, all in the same motion is indeed a tough play and especially when you know that one run could win or lose a game.....Farris just might be a better hitter than Maile, but not behind the plate..... Farris will never play at the next level as a pro or in college behind the plate, if Maile so chooses he will be a catcher at whatever level he chooses to play at.....

If that play at the plate was so routine, then why didn't the BW catcher make a play at the plate that was much easier, later in the game? Having a kid coming down on you no matter how small he is, while you are waiting for the ball, then tagging a sliding player as you catch the ball, all in the same motion is indeed a tough play and especially when you know that one run could win or lose a game.....Farris just might be a better hitter than Maile, but not behind the plate..... Farris will never play at the next level as a pro or in college behind the plate, if Maile so chooses he will be a catcher at whatever level he chooses to play at.....

 

I'm sure Farris will play wherever his coach or manager will decide he wants him to play. To say "never play behind the plate" is a little much.

If that play at the plate was so routine, then why didn't the BW catcher make a play at the plate that was much easier, later in the game? Having a kid coming down on you no matter how small he is, while you are waiting for the ball, then tagging a sliding player as you catch the ball, all in the same motion is indeed a tough play and especially when you know that one run could win or lose a game.....Farris just might be a better hitter than Maile, but not behind the plate..... Farris will never play at the next level as a pro or in college behind the plate, if Maile so chooses he will be a catcher at whatever level he chooses to play at.....

 

 

Down boy, easy! Let's think about the plays. First of all, Maile's play, he recieved a perfect relay throw from Popham at third which was in the air, line drive directly to him. The BHS catcher was trying to catch a ball that short hopped him from a throw from CF. Now, you tell me which is the easier play?

Any run in this type of game could win/lose the game.

 

I think my comment was a routine play for any good catcher. I think the BHS catcher could have made the same play that Maile made. It wasn't that spectacular.

 

As for Farris, he will play where he wants, probably be an OF coming from the big shots. I don't think he has the size to be a big time catcher as is not the case for Maile. However, I do think Farris can catch at the college level.

According to another thread: today, Farris had 2 hits, stole 3 bases, scored 3 runs w/one RBI.