Minnesota. They always manage to screw something up.

The Bengals will mess up.. its happened so many times before!

 

And that is the biggest Myth in the NFL these days. Here is just a a little piece of a an article from bengals.com. I strongly recommened that everyone reads this whole article because its a very good read...

 

ESPN once called the Bengals’ first draft pick the funniest 15 minutes in TV. But you wonder that while the Bengals have stopped laughing, why does everybody keep using the same lines?

 

Put the blindfold on and name this team:

 

It has drafted nine of its 11 projected offensive starters. As many as six or seven draftees could start on defense. In the last five years, during which said team has won a division, maintained a top 10 offense, and is one of five teams without a losing record in the last four years, it has retained the highest amount of drafted players in the NFL on its roster as well as drafting the second fewest that are no longer in the NFL.

 

Told that team is the Cincinnati Bengals of Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis, a board of experts couldn’t hide their surprise.

 

“You would have to conclude that’s a team that drafts very well,” says one former general manager, and one draft analyst says, “They are one of the most underrated drafting teams in the NFL.”

 

Welcome to mythmaking in the 21st century.

 

The national perception continues to be the Bengals can’t find their way out of the draft room. In recent days on their web sites, ESPN and Fox have carved up the Bengals for having the smallest personnel department in the league and Fox scolded them for letting players get through the cracks.

 

But the numbers suggest the myth has more than a few cracks.

 

Jerry Jones, the draft analyst who publishes “The Drugstore List,” recently came up with interesting five-year numbers, from the last pre-Lewis year of 2002 through last year’s draft of 2006.

 

Of the 42 players the Bengals took in those drafts, 30 were still on the roster. Eight were starters, 22 were backups, six were on other teams and six were out of the league.

 

The Bengals’ retention rate of 71 percent led the league. Only the Jets with five players out of the NFL (13 percent) had a lower number. In the AFC North, Baltimore had the most picks with 45 and the most out of the league with 10, and nine of its 28 retained players starting. Of the Steelers’ 38 picks, 22 were still on the club and seven were out of the league.

 

One of the anti-Bengals arguments is they have so many young players because they don't use free agency. But they have been competitive with Denver, one of the teams that hasn't had a losing record since '03, and the Broncos have done it the exact opposite way by retaining only 39 percent of their picks since '02.

 

"You can make numbers do whatever you want," says the former GM. "The bottom line is the Bengals have drafted well."

 

As for the winningest teams in the NFL over that stretch, the Colts retained 22 of 42 picks and 13 were gone from the league. For New England, the Pats still had 23 players with six busts like the Bengals.

 

“That’s impressive, no question,” Jones says. “Their number of starters is low with eight at 19 percent, but their high number of backups shows they’ve got a lot of young guys with promise.”

 

But take into consideration the year before the five-year window—2001—and you’re talking about the best draft in Bengals history:

 

Defensive end Justin Smith and wide receiver Chad Johnson in the first two rounds and running back Rudi Johnson (fourth round) and wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh (seventh round) on the second day.

 

“That’s an amazing draft. Outstanding. To get four impact players like that makes it a great draft,” says Pete Prisco of CBS Sportsline. “The Bengals have been a good drafting team. They draft good football players and that’s the idea whether you have five scouts or 25. There’s no question that there are teams that have too many. It doesn’t matter, it just gets down to taking good players and the Bengals have done it.”

 

http://bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=6004

To clarify the thread, I believe it is to see who makes that one pick that messes up the entire draft board... not who will select a subpar player or draft bust.

 

For instance, everyone thinks Russell will be drafted first. Based upon that, GMs have already penciled in who they are going to take. Let us say last minute, they pick Johnson, it completely changes the draft order. Now, some team not even considering Russell may have to consider him.

 

Who is going to make a pick that "stuns" the crowd and leaves available someone that was not supposed to be there.

 

:thumb:

That's the only thing they HAVEN'T done yet, so maybe you are on to something. That would be the funniest thing I have seen in the NFL since the Bears had Craig Krenzel starting at QB a couple years ago. lol

 

NICE!:thumb:

And that is the biggest Myth in the NFL these days. Here is just a a little piece of a an article from bengals.com. I strongly recommened that everyone reads this whole article because its a very good read...

 

ESPN once called the Bengals’ first draft pick the funniest 15 minutes in TV. But you wonder that while the Bengals have stopped laughing, why does everybody keep using the same lines?

 

Put the blindfold on and name this team:

 

It has drafted nine of its 11 projected offensive starters. As many as six or seven draftees could start on defense. In the last five years, during which said team has won a division, maintained a top 10 offense, and is one of five teams without a losing record in the last four years, it has retained the highest amount of drafted players in the NFL on its roster as well as drafting the second fewest that are no longer in the NFL.

 

Told that team is the Cincinnati Bengals of Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis, a board of experts couldn’t hide their surprise.

 

“You would have to conclude that’s a team that drafts very well,” says one former general manager, and one draft analyst says, “They are one of the most underrated drafting teams in the NFL.”

 

Welcome to mythmaking in the 21st century.

 

The national perception continues to be the Bengals can’t find their way out of the draft room. In recent days on their web sites, ESPN and Fox have carved up the Bengals for having the smallest personnel department in the league and Fox scolded them for letting players get through the cracks.

 

But the numbers suggest the myth has more than a few cracks.

 

Jerry Jones, the draft analyst who publishes “The Drugstore List,” recently came up with interesting five-year numbers, from the last pre-Lewis year of 2002 through last year’s draft of 2006.

 

Of the 42 players the Bengals took in those drafts, 30 were still on the roster. Eight were starters, 22 were backups, six were on other teams and six were out of the league.

 

The Bengals’ retention rate of 71 percent led the league. Only the Jets with five players out of the NFL (13 percent) had a lower number. In the AFC North, Baltimore had the most picks with 45 and the most out of the league with 10, and nine of its 28 retained players starting. Of the Steelers’ 38 picks, 22 were still on the club and seven were out of the league.

 

One of the anti-Bengals arguments is they have so many young players because they don't use free agency. But they have been competitive with Denver, one of the teams that hasn't had a losing record since '03, and the Broncos have done it the exact opposite way by retaining only 39 percent of their picks since '02.

 

"You can make numbers do whatever you want," says the former GM. "The bottom line is the Bengals have drafted well."

 

As for the winningest teams in the NFL over that stretch, the Colts retained 22 of 42 picks and 13 were gone from the league. For New England, the Pats still had 23 players with six busts like the Bengals.

 

“That’s impressive, no question,” Jones says. “Their number of starters is low with eight at 19 percent, but their high number of backups shows they’ve got a lot of young guys with promise.”

 

But take into consideration the year before the five-year window—2001—and you’re talking about the best draft in Bengals history:

 

Defensive end Justin Smith and wide receiver Chad Johnson in the first two rounds and running back Rudi Johnson (fourth round) and wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh (seventh round) on the second day.

 

“That’s an amazing draft. Outstanding. To get four impact players like that makes it a great draft,” says Pete Prisco of CBS Sportsline. “The Bengals have been a good drafting team. They draft good football players and that’s the idea whether you have five scouts or 25. There’s no question that there are teams that have too many. It doesn’t matter, it just gets down to taking good players and the Bengals have done it.”

 

http://bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=6004

 

And yet one winning record during those 4 years and no playoff wins... :creepy:

And yet one winning record during those 4 years and no playoff wins... :creepy:

 

And yet one of only 5 teams in the NFL to not have a losing record in the last 4 years...

And yet one of only 5 teams in the NFL to not have a losing record in the last 4 years...

 

So you are content with their success??? :lol:

So you are content with their success??? :lol:

 

Not at all! But that is a completely different thing from this thread. This thing is talking about the draft, and someone said the bengals always screw up in the draft. When yet the Bengals actually have been one of the top teams when it comes to the draft. And well it is true and you can tell that by them having more of their draft picks on the team still than mostly every other team, and still has been one of only 5 teams not to have losing records in the last 5 years. As for the success two years ago we had just a bad luck injury with palmer against those steelers, and well last year they just blew it plain and simple. However when it comes to the draft they have been successful, but you can keep trying to twist that around somehow if you want, even though you would be wrong...:sssh:

The Dolphins....They'll trade up to #6 to select Quinn and things will snowball from there....

Which ever team that takes Brady (I HAVE NEVER WON A BIG GAME)Quinn with their first pick.

 

 

Well it's hard to win a big game when you lead your team to 30+ points and your defense can't hold the other team to under forty. If you look at the scores of the big game ND almost always had good offensive production just poor defense, except last years sugar bowl, which was an all around ugly game.

Its gotta be the Browns or the Lions.

Well it's hard to win a big game when you lead your team to 30+ points and your defense can't hold the other team to under forty. If you look at the scores of the big game ND almost always had good offensive production just poor defense, except last years sugar bowl, which was an all around ugly game.

The bottom line is he has not done it and won't do it at the next level-OVERRATED.:dancingpa

Two offensive lineman taken in the top 10 kind of makes you wonder.

 

BTW, why is it the Lions only draft Wide Receivers? They have done this with their first pick the past couple years and still aren't winning. Wouldn't they get the hint they need a Qb or impact player on defense?

I thought Cleveland's fans were going to explode today...

The Dolphins....They'll trade up to #6 to select Quinn and things will snowball from there....

 

While the pick number was wrong, I got the team right....Hooray me! :lol: