pigman Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 Let's just do a thread on this and then it won't have to be brought up in every UK recruiting thread. I know just about evertime Pettigrews name is brought up and UK not offering the Lofton situation is brought up. I've only seen Pettigrew play once and I will agree he can shoot the ball. He didn't seem to have the ballhandling skills that will be required at the next level. I know he's said to be an extremely hard worker and could develop those skills. He just didn't seem to be very quick and not a great leaper. Now people who have seen him more could enlighten those of us who haven't. Lofton was also an allstate wide reciever and to me that says the kid was one heck of an athlete. I also am aware Tubby had Crawford, Rondo and Bradley coming and that was the main reason for passing on him. So let's hear it.
PRESSROW Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 Tubby had Crawford, Rondo and Bradley coming and that was the main reason for passing on him. So let's hear it. Crawford= leave college + allowed to return = a bust Rondo= 2 years + attitude = bust bust Bradley=a bust Roll the three up and you might get a thin hamburger in a McDonalds Happy Meal. Lofton, his stats tell it all = All American.
crimedoc Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 No comparison. Pettigrew is not even being heavily recruited by any SEC schools.
spe690 Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 He is a 6'5 post player. If he were 6'9, then he would be at UK.
Son of Bear Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 Tubby had Crawford, Rondo and Bradley coming and that was the main reason for passing on him. So let's hear it. Crawford= leave college + allowed to return = a bust Rondo= 2 years + attitude = bust bust Bradley=a bust Roll the three up and you might get a thin hamburger in a McDonalds Happy Meal. Lofton, his stats tell it all = All American. Tubby had the #1 recruiting class in America that year. Heck, Tubby had to send Adam Willaims to prep school for a year to make room for Morris. Any other year UK goes after and most likely lands Lofton. The bigger mistake in recruiting that year is Corey Brewer. He is from Portland, TN and has a couple of rings the last time I checked. As for Rondo being a bust.........:lol: . I don't see how you could call a guy who is drafted in the 1st round of the NBA draft a bust. He may not have had a storied career at UK, but he isn't a bust.....
PRESSROW Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 Tubby had the #1 recruiting class in America that year. Heck, Tubby had to send Adam Willaims to prep school for a year to make room for Morris. Any other year UK goes after and most likely lands Lofton. The bigger mistake in recruiting that year is Corey Brewer. He is from Portland, TN and has a couple of rings the last time I checked. As for Rondo being a bust.........:lol: . I don't see how you could call a guy who is drafted in the 1st round of the NBA draft a bust. He may not have had a storied career at UK, but he isn't a bust..... Rondo is not at UK, and when he was he was he was nothing short of a bad attitude.
bugatti Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 Let us not look at this as Lofton vs. UK's '04 recruiting class.... take all the names out of the equation and answer this question. If you were a coach (at a big boy university and getting blue chippers is highly scrutinized), do you take 3 five star recruits, and a four star recruit (from various places), or would you be willing to take a chance on a three star player not heavily recruited, but from in-state. The answer is a no-brainer when you are trying to stay competitive... The odds are a lot more in the favor of the coach taking 4 highly rated kids to be a success, than taking a chance on a lower rated kid exceeding expectations, which that has what Chris Lofton has done.... Even though it played a big role in how Tubby was viewed the last two seasons, the '04 recruiting class was not near the whiff as other classes. The comparrisons between the two situations are fair enough, imo. Both are kids that do not really fit the prototypical PF (or SG in Lofton's case). It does seem both have been able compensate in other ways, thus far.
just 4 fun Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 I wouldn't call Crawford, Rondo or Bradley a bust...At the time, Tubby did what any other coach would do and take the better players. I don't recall to many big time programs knocking Loftons door down...In hindsight, he turned out better than ALL the experts thought...It's easy to see that now, but, much more difficult when coming out of HS...As far as Pettigrew, I hope he develops his game and turns out to be as good as Lofton is and if he does, it'll be another hindsight miss, but, remember this, what other bigtime programs are beating his door down now? None. So, if it happens, it's not just UK that missed out on him...
U Reach I Teach Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 BOTTOM LINE --- LOFTON ALL AMERICAN, PETTIGREW NOT Pettigrew was a great high school player and well deserving of the Mr. Basketball award, but Kentucky is not in need of a 6'5" Post player. No Comparison.. LOFTON much better player!
bugatti Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 BOTTOM LINE --- LOFTON ALL AMERICAN, PETTIGREW NOT Pettigrew was a great high school player and well deserving of the Mr. Basketball award, but Kentucky is not in need of a 6'5" Post player. No Comparison.. LOFTON much better player! In looking at Lofton in is senior year to Pettigrew in his senior year, the situations are somewhat similar, you cannot argue otherwise. Now, it is to be seen how Pettigrew performs in college. The odds are in favor of Billy G getting a higher rated kid (just as the odds were in favor of Tubby taking one of the following: Crawford, Rondo, Bradley, Morris.. over Lofton).
gametime Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 In looking at Lofton in is senior year to Pettigrew in his senior year, the situations are somewhat similar, you cannot argue otherwise. Now, it is to be seen how Pettigrew performs in college. The odds are in favor of Billy G getting a higher rated kid (just as the odds were in favor of Tubby taking one of the following: Crawford, Rondo, Bradley, Morris.. over Lofton). That's ignoring the whole Lofton showing up huge in every big game on the way to a title and runner up. There is nothing to compare here...
bugatti Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 That's ignoring the whole Lofton showing up huge in every big game on the way to a title and runner up. There is nothing to compare here... It is if you would not have brought that up... :walk: "Compare" in the sense both were great Kentucky high school players that wanted UK, but UK wanted to go another route. The same can be said for many of Kentucky's prep players through the years.
dinoradja Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 Lofton had the size to play guard in the SEC. Pettigrew will not be able to post up too many people at 6"5 in the SEC. That is the problem. UK does not need a guy that size at forward and that is the reason that Pettigrew will be somewhere else and I hope he does well wherever he goes. He just does not fit into the needs that UK has to fill.
Original Rookie Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 No comparison. Pettigrew is not even being heavily recruited by any SEC schools. Lofton wasn't either.
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