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The hidden ball trick!

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I saw Harrison County use that one on a pinch runner in the Semi-State against Lafayette 3 years ago.

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What about Beechwood's "trick" play they pulled off to beat NCC in the All A region championship 2 years ago?

 

Runners on 1st and 3rd for Bwood, kid on first takes off running in to right field causing everyone to start screaming and make the pitcher to turn quickly stepping off the rubber and balk. Ball game, Beechwood wins.

Excuse me for probably being ignorant of the rules as they may be today (I umpired many years ago),but if the runner on first started running into right field with 2nd base open,isn't he out for being out of the baseline???

The Tigers had a trick play pulled on them just this past weekend down in Alabama. With runners at 1st and 2nd, there pitcher, before going on the rubber, wheeled and facked a through towards 2nd base. The SS dove in front of the runner, The 2nd baseman dove behind the runner and the center fieilder started charging and yelling that he had it, their dugout was yelling get the ball. Our coaches started yelling "GO" and the runner at second headed for third and the pitcher threw the ball to his 3rd baseman for the out.

 

Shame on us for falling for it, but it was well executed.

 

JMHO But, if KY has a rule to prevent this type of play; that is lame. I guess someone got their feelings hurt because they got fooled by another team pulling it on them.

 

:laugh: Those Cry-babies are just mad cause they didn't think of it first. :laugh:

 

Harrison beat HHS in the 97 Sectionals because of this play...:irked:

Excuse me for probably being ignorant of the rules as they may be today (I umpired many years ago),but if the runner on first started running into right field with 2nd base open,isn't he out for being out of the baseline???

 

He's out but only if the pitcher makes an attemped move at him. The pitcher just turned really quick without stepping off the rubber which caused him to balk before the call could be made.

 

The play against NCC the kid got his lead and then just kind of jogged out toward the outfield.

Excuse me for probably being ignorant of the rules as they may be today (I umpired many years ago),but if the runner on first started running into right field with 2nd base open,isn't he out for being out of the baseline???

 

The "out of baseline" name is misleading. Its not the true direct line between 2 bases that sets the 3 foot limit. The rule actually limits you to 3 feet from the player making a play on you.

He's out but only if the pitcher makes an attemped move at him. The pitcher just turned really quick without stepping off the rubber which caused him to balk before the call could be made.

 

The play against NCC the kid got his lead and then just kind of jogged out toward the outfield.

The only time he is out is if he is tagged out.The only thing the pitcher can do if he does not balk is let him stand in the outfield.I saw this a couple of years ago and the defense tried to make a play on the guy who went to the outfield. The runner on third then went home and scored which is what it was intended to do.Forget about the guy in the outfield and pitch to the batter.

I saw Harrison County use that one on a pinch runner in the Semi-State against Lafayette 3 years ago.

 

Harrison County has perfected this and used it for years. The funny thing in the Lafayette game was that when the Harrison County Pitcher turned and started the play the entire Lafayette cheering section was screaming stay there. That was an excellant game with Roe and Hamm dueling and the Generals pulling it out 3-2 in 9 innings.

Harrison beat HHS in the 97 Sectionals because of this play...:irked:

 

 

Yes, I think the Highlands Pitcher happened to be the baserunning victim and that play was just enough to turn the momentum in the Thorobreds favor.

 

I saw this play work so well in Alabama one year that both umpires were looking for the ball and couldn't make the call to call the baserunner out.

Yes, I think the Highlands Pitcher happened to be the baserunning victim and that play was just enough to turn the momentum in the Thorobreds favor.

 

I saw this play work so well in Alabama one year that both umpires were looking for the ball and couldn't make the call to call the baserunner out.

 

It was a FRESHMAN pinch runner...:madman:

It was a FRESHMAN pinch runner...:madman:

 

Those darn Freshman..... Tell us how you really feel Sticky!!!!!! Just joking.:thumb:

It was a FRESHMAN pinch runner...:madman:

 

That was a great game! I remember the pitcher Glaser (sp?) was a monster on the mound. He also hit a bomb that game. That was the best team that Harrison faced that year from the state of Kentucky!

The only time he is out is if he is tagged out.The only thing the pitcher can do if he does not balk is let him stand in the outfield.I saw this a couple of years ago and the defense tried to make a play on the guy who went to the outfield. The runner on third then went home and scored which is what it was intended to do.Forget about the guy in the outfield and pitch to the batter.

 

The rule is, if you make an attempted move at the runner in the outfield he is called out for being out of baseline. Basically show him the ball run 3 feet toward him then throw the ball home and both are out if it happens that way.

I remember during my freshman season while playing for the freshman team I was the second baseman, and the pitcher threw the ball to me to try to pick off the runner at second. The runner was safe, so while the runner was still laying on the ground I acted like I threw the ball back to the pitcher, and the runner stood up like one step off the base and I tagged him and got the out.. I know I almost pulled it off on the varsity level later in the year as well, but right when the player was about to step off the base, his coach yelled at him to stay on the base because I had the ball...

The rule is, if you make an attempted move at the runner in the outfield he is called out for being out of baseline. Basically show him the ball run 3 feet toward him then throw the ball home and both are out if it happens that way.

 

That is NOT the rule. I challenge you to find your interpretation in the actual rulebook.

 

The "skunk in the outfield" play is legal. The defense can ignore him but they cannot simply walk towards him and have him declared out.

 

Once the runner attempts to advance from his position in the outfield his basepath is set. He then has 3 feet on either side of that path.

 

Think about what you're saying. If all a pitcher has to do is "make an attempted move" why would a team ever try it? Get your rulebook out and look for any rules that talk about running bases. There is no wording on where you have to run when there is no play being made on you.

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