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The hidden ball trick!

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That is NOT the rule. I challenge you to find your interpretation in the actual rulebook.

 

The "skunk in the outfield" play is legal. The defense can ignore him but they cannot simply walk towards him and have him declared out.

 

Once the runner attempts to advance from his position in the outfield his basepath is set. He then has 3 feet on either side of that path.

 

Think about what you're saying. If all a pitcher has to do is "make an attempted move" why would a team ever try it? Get your rulebook out and look for any rules that talk about running bases. There is no wording on where you have to run when there is no play being made on you.

You got that right!!!! The best thing a defense can do is ignore the guy in the outfield and keep the runner on third.:ylsuper:

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Those darn Freshman..... Tell us how you really feel Sticky!!!!!! Just joking.:thumb:

 

Freshman are useless...;)

That was a great game! I remember the pitcher Glaser (sp?) was a monster on the mound. He also hit a bomb that game. That was the best team that Harrison faced that year from the state of Kentucky!

 

We thought that if we beat Harrison we had a chance to win it all. We had another pitcher, Pfetzer who threw for EKU and NKU. He hit a bomb as well...

That is NOT the rule. I challenge you to find your interpretation in the actual rulebook.

 

The "skunk in the outfield" play is legal. The defense can ignore him but they cannot simply walk towards him and have him declared out.

 

Once the runner attempts to advance from his position in the outfield his basepath is set. He then has 3 feet on either side of that path.

 

Think about what you're saying. If all a pitcher has to do is "make an attempted move" why would a team ever try it? Get your rulebook out and look for any rules that talk about running bases. There is no wording on where you have to run when there is no play being made on you.

 

You're right. I was confused so I looked it up. Thanks for clearing it up for me. :thumb:

Yesterday, Tates Creek beat Somerset on a questionable play. I guess it was a form of the hidden ball trick. But not sure if the umpires made the right call.

Saw this one in a high school game in Indiana.

 

7th inning. Tie ball game. Runner on third. Pitcher was in the wind up. Just as he starts his motion the batter drops his bat then bends over to pick it up. Pitcher stops and watches him. Ump calls a balk runner scores game over.

Saw this one in a high school game in Indiana.

 

7th inning. Tie ball game. Runner on third. Pitcher was in the wind up. Just as he starts his motion the batter drops his bat then bends over to pick it up. Pitcher stops and watches him. Ump calls a balk runner scores game over.

 

I May have to try this one myself in one of our games. :laugh:

Saw this one in a high school game in Indiana.

 

7th inning. Tie ball game. Runner on third. Pitcher was in the wind up. Just as he starts his motion the batter drops his bat then bends over to pick it up. Pitcher stops and watches him. Ump calls a balk runner scores game over.

 

That's crap!!!!! If I was the umpire, I'd have told them it was a do-over since I was distracted by the batter and did not see the pitcher do anything wrong. I'd then run the manager as soon as he looked at me funny.

 

Bad for baseball.

We used to do this things where if a runner was on second we'd call off the second baseman and short stop telling them not to guard second base and when the runner sees that no one is behind him he gets a bigger lead and then we have the center fielder run in from the outfield and the pitcher quickly throws a pickoff attempt to second and e occasionally got the runner out.

We used to do this things where if a runner was on second we'd call off the second baseman and short stop telling them not to guard second base and when the runner sees that no one is behind him he gets a bigger lead and then we have the center fielder run in from the outfield and the pitcher quickly throws a pickoff attempt to second and e occasionally got the runner out.

 

Very old trick...we did that when I played knothole. :lol: :lol: Seemed to always work though.

We used to do this things where if a runner was on second we'd call off the second baseman and short stop telling them not to guard second base and when the runner sees that no one is behind him he gets a bigger lead and then we have the center fielder run in from the outfield and the pitcher quickly throws a pickoff attempt to second and e occasionally got the runner out.

 

Please tell me this didn't work past about 4th grade.

That's crap!!!!! If I was the umpire, I'd have told them it was a do-over since I was distracted by the batter and did not see the pitcher do anything wrong. I'd then run the manager as soon as he looked at me funny.

 

Bad for baseball.

 

 

OK. Good news for those of you that hate crap like the "drop the bat" routine.

 

From the OBR rulebook:

 

 

4.06

(a) No manager, player, substitute, coach, trainer or batboy shall at any time, whether from the bench, the coach’s box or on the playing field, or elsewhere --

(3) Call “Time,” or employ any other word or phrase or commit any act while the ball is alive and in play for the obvious purpose of trying to make the pitcher commit a balk.(4) Make intentional contact with the umpire in any manner.

 

PENALTY: The offender shall be removed from the game and shall leave the playing field, and, if a balk is made, it shall be nullified.

Please tell me this didn't work past about 4th grade.

 

You'd be surprised. Some high school teams still try it. I know Ludlow does every once in a while.

Saw this one in a high school game in Indiana.

 

7th inning. Tie ball game. Runner on third. Pitcher was in the wind up. Just as he starts his motion the batter drops his bat then bends over to pick it up. Pitcher stops and watches him. Ump calls a balk runner scores game over.

 

The umpires have broad discretion on balk calls. They can call a balk (or non-balk) for ANYthing that they deem is an attempt to deceive a baserunner (or pitcher, in this case).

 

They can call "no-pitch" and eject the batter, if they so desire. They do not have to call a balk.

Please tell me this didn't work past about 4th grade.

 

Yes, actually it worked in high school, we done it my junior year (2002-2003) at Shelby Valley. It worked on some teams.

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