I would love to see quarters turned into halves.

That is pretty lame to watch in street clothes and then hand out T's, sounds like small man's syndrome.

Let me be fair and clear with the officials view. He was IN THE GYM IN STREET CLOTHES before the team arrived. He didn't slink in while they were warming up. He was in the gym and they came in to warmup and started dunking.

 

The players and the coach allowing it were the ones who broke a rule not the official.

Let me be fair and clear with the officials view. He was IN THE GYM IN STREET CLOTHES before the team arrived. He didn't slink in while they were warming up. He was in the gym and they came in to warmup and started dunking.

 

The players and the coach allowing it were the ones who broke a rule not the official.

 

 

Still VERY weak. Until he has his referee clothing on he's just another fan in the stands.

That's kind of like an off duty cop pulling someone over in his Camry - with no blue lights to flash...

I would venture to guess that the ref was "scratched" by the coach of the team who got the T's.

Still VERY weak. Until he has his referee clothing on he's just another fan in the stands.

That's kind of like an off duty cop pulling someone over in his Camry - with no blue lights to flash...

I would venture to guess that the ref was "scratched" by the coach of the team who got the T's.

Probably was scratched.

 

Can an off duty cop not arrest people? Are they ONLY a cop when they are in uniform?

 

Actually, not wanting to defend the ref in this case but just point out to those that were saying why is it legal when they are not in the gym, that it IS NOT LEGAL to dunk when the officials are not in the gym. The players are breaking the rules just as they would be if the officials were in the gym.

Probably was scratched.

 

Can an off duty cop not arrest people? Are they ONLY a cop when they are in uniform?

 

Actually, not wanting to defend the ref in this case but just point out to those that were saying why is it legal when they are not in the gym, that it IS NOT LEGAL to dunk when the officials are not in the gym. The players are breaking the rules just as they would be if the officials were in the gym.

 

I'm with you on this one.

I would love to see quarters turned into halves.

Interesting, for example 2-15 minutes halves or more/less time?

 

Would timeouts be changed, if using this.

The more I read all of the above posts, the more I think the rules are fine just as they are. No changes needed. Do we really need to complicate the game further by:

 

having a rule limiting the number of assistant coaches?

having a rule that the officials must come onto the floor at the same time as the teams?

having a rule that the home team can not have a shoot-around before the JV game?

 

The only thing I would change is to do away with the media timeouts in the televised games. There were way too many.

 

Not saying you limit the number of assistants, a team can have as many as they want during practices, etc. Merely stating they should limit the number of coaches on the bench during a game.

Not saying you limit the number of assistants, a team can have as many as they want during practices, etc. Merely stating they should limit the number of coaches on the bench during a game.

 

That was my point as well. I don't care how many assistant coaches a team has, or whether they're paid or volunteers. A team can have a freshman nutrition coach for all I care, but they don't all need to be on the bench at game time.

That was my point as well. I don't care how many assistant coaches a team has, or whether they're paid or volunteers. A team can have a freshman nutrition coach for all I care, but they don't all need to be on the bench at game time.

I agree.

I agree.

 

And let me acknowledge your point re. dunking during warm-ups. If it's not legal but only selectively enforced, why have the rule?

And let me acknowledge your point re. dunking during warm-ups. If it's not legal but only selectively enforced, why have the rule?

It is completely enforced when the officials are in the gym. It is the coaches/athletic staff that is not enforcing the rules before the officials arrive.

 

The only thing I think you can do is to put a 20 minute MAX that any player can come out and warmup. You ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE ON THE COURT till the clock starts it's 20 minute countdown and the officials are required to be there at that time.

 

If anyone is interesting, my understanding is that one this helps prevent injuries from a player that might dunk lose their balance and fall but probably more important it prevents the game from being delayed or cancelled. At my school, someone breaks the rim (more likely) or the backboard, we have to pull one of the rims/backboards down from the side baskets. We don't have extra backboards laying around.

Interesting, for example 2-15 minutes halves or more/less time?

 

Would timeouts be changed, if using this.

 

The halves topic I think is unique. I like the quarters since it gives structure to the gameplan of a coach. I have long felt like college coaches are often at the mercy of the clock. I've seen many coaches just waiting for those final seconds to tick off of a long 7-8 minute stretch where the kids are tired and just need a break but coach is saving time outs.

The halves topic I think is unique. I like the quarters since it gives structure to the gameplan of a coach. I have long felt like college coaches are often at the mercy of the clock. I've seen many coaches just waiting for those final seconds to tick off of a long 7-8 minute stretch where the kids are tired and just need a break but coach is saving time outs.

I liked the quarters as a coach.

 

Tried to sell the mentality to the players that we wanted to win the first two-three minutes and last two-three minutes of each quarter.

Abolish the "no dunking when the officials hit the floor" rule. If guys can dunk when the officials AREN'T there to supervise, why can't they dunk when the ARE there? This is in direct contradiction to, say, track and field; where throwers and jumpers can't practice until an official is at the venue. Plan B - no dunking during pre-game warmups. At least be consistent - allow dunking the entire time or disallow dunking the entire time.

 

I can't see what is gained by using three officials. Save the expense; spread the better officials around a little more.

 

Please - no shot clock. The absence of a shot clock often gives underdogs more of a chance when they're outmatched by way of playing a slowdown game. Some folks like run-and-gun only, but I kind of enjoy seeing how a team responds to the opposition putting the ball in the freezer. Increased expense also - clocks and clock operators cost money.

 

Surely teams can get by with four coaches on the bench. Not to pick on any team in particular, but it seemed like Lexington Catholic, for example, brought nearly as many coaches as players to the bench when they came to Mason County this year. As a player, I might get confused with 8 coaches all trying to tell me something at the same time.

 

The rules by and large are all right - consistent enforcement is the key. I saw SO MANY games this year where guys got away with anything down low, but every little ticky-tack touch thirty feet from the basket was called. If a player doesn't gain an advantage, don't call a foul.

 

No international rules; at least, not until the NCAA adopts them first.

 

 

Other than the dig at Lex. Cath. I agree. Especially on the dunking. Allow it just as in a game....no hanging on the rim. I think the purpose is to protect the hardware anyway. Saw Rose Hill's Jackson get a technical in Lexington before their game with Oak Hill. Giving up the free throws was one thing, but the personal foul was a killer. Back to the other, I don't disagree about the number of coaches on the bench. I think that has to do maybe with more of a recognition to the coaches who help out with training etc.. Not to come off as defensive... at Lex. Cath. there are only two paid coaches as far as I know and they are required to teach full-time also. The other coaches on the bench were usually the baseball coach who helps out during basketball season, and a couple of assistants who are volunteers. Sometimes, the coach from the middle-school program will sit on the bench as well. Other people on the bench in jackets, etc. are any injured players. It is not quite the way people like to portray it.

Interesting, for example 2-15 minutes halves or more/less time?

 

Would timeouts be changed, if using this.

 

I always thought they could just combine the two 8 minute quarters and have two 16 minute halves.