Some guys on my football team got caught drinking which was against team rules. Instead of getting kicked off the team they ran steps every morning before school for a month.

 

I also was talking to Willie Schlarman at CCMS one day while 2 of his players were running steps. We talked for 30 plus minutes and the kids were sweating when we started talking. After our conversation he blew his whistle and the kids stopped. He said, "Don't be late for school again," and walked off. His teams at Brossart were a little disciplined.

I would just like some opinions on running as punishment. Example, team does poorly in a game situation. Next practice coach runs them unmercifully until many are throwing up. No dribbling, or ball-handling just running.

 

This seems abusive to me, but would like others input.

 

 

I do not agree with making them run without a ball. True conditioning is making them dribble while running or just carry the ball. Try that all of you coaches and see how tired the boys/girls get. Just have them hold the ball while doing suicides. It is a hue difference.

 

Teams that do a ton of conditioning usually are the best teams. When you get tired, you lose focus and focus is very important in any athletic event.

Some guys on my football team got caught drinking which was against team rules. Instead of getting kicked off the team they ran steps every morning before school for a month.

 

I also was talking to Willie Schlarman at CCMS one day while 2 of his players were running steps. We talked for 30 plus minutes and the kids were sweating when we started talking. After our conversation he blew his whistle and the kids stopped. He said, "Don't be late for school again," and walked off. His teams at Brossart were a little disciplined.

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Interesting question here.

I think that the age level of the child is very important here.

For example, middle school kids play because of the sheer love of the game. When a coach continually punishes these kids, then I think there is a problem. Ive seen many kids quit because of fear of the next practice after a tough loss.

However, it is a different story at the high school level. A coach must get the most out of each and every player. I actually feel that most kids need more running.

JMHO.

Interesting question here.

I think that the age level of the child is very important here.

For example, middle school kids play because of the sheer love of the game. When a coach continually punishes these kids, then I think there is a problem. Ive seen many kids quit because of fear of the next practice after a tough loss.

However, it is a different story at the high school level. A coach must get the most out of each and every player. I actually feel that most kids need more running.

JMHO.

Im not sure where this is but if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

Exactly. One of the reasons hard conditioning is done at the beginning.

Is one way to not have to make cuts.

 

On the pukers, heard a story once that a player had a Sunkist and a bag of hot fries for lunch. She said they did taste as good coming back up during conditioning.

 

Running can also be used for consequences of not completing a goal. Say you have a layup drill and you expect them to make 50 in a minute. Suicide if you don't complete the goal.

 

Lastly, heard of a college coach that allowed his team to give up 8 offensive rebounds in a game. Any over that amount and they ran a sprint for each offensive rebound over 8. Kept their focus on blocking out and controlling the defensive glass cause they did not want to run the next practice.

This is a joke of a question. You can't handle it...sit in the stands and watch...

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I would think that any type of running as the coach deems appropriate is OK it sure gets the point across besides basketball is a voluntary activity you know what your getting yourself into before the season starts.

Running is a great form of punishment and it would be a rare coach who crossed the line, and I agree with Wireman...bleacher stairs are a necessity. I hated when I was a player, loved it when I was a coach. A well conditioned, disciplined team usually comes out on top on the court and off the court.

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Running is a great form of punishment and it would be a rare coach who crossed the line, and I agree with Wireman...bleacher stairs are a necessity. I hated when I was a player, loved it when I was a coach. A well conditioned, disciplined team usually comes out on top on the court and off the court.

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One of the charactaristics of an outstanding coach is the ability to push a kid far beyond where the kid would go on his own. It's the coach who has to know how far to push because the kids will quit WAY before they really have to.

 

I agree with this...many or most of the younger players do not know how to push themselves independently. Having said this, "the punishment should fit the crime". Running and aerobic conditioning for basketball, soccer, football is good, because there is a performance opportunity. If the crime was lack of effort, run and throw in stairs, etc. If it was turnovers, run while passing, dribbling etc. Running will only help poor shooting if the poor shooting was a result of tired legs. Other wise, don't punish for poor shooting, work on technique and shot selection.

 

Lastly, "too much" depends on the player. In my day, the coach would warn us when we would be running - "bring your running shoes" and you made sure you didn't eat much before practice, because you would see it again. There are always players that would heave before the others. (Thanks to them.)

I would just like some opinions on running as punishment. Example, team does poorly in a game situation. Next practice coach runs them unmercifully until many are throwing up. No dribbling, or ball-handling just running.

 

This seems abusive to me, but would like others input.

 

You need to watch the movie "Coach Carter" :thumb: :thumb:

Are you serious? Give me a break. I ran in high school and it didn't hurt me. ... What's next? a court order stopping running in practice?

 

 

I remember way back in the day, running halls and stairs at Holmes (and the hill down at the "hole" during better weather) we weren't permitted to get water. If we were caught at a fountain the entire team was punished with more running. Back then we were told, "water is for the weak". Of course we know better now but to this day, if I'm playing a sport, I won't take a drink until I'm done.

I had a coach sit down and opened a pepsi and said "Keep running until I get tired" That was fun day, lol. Run them. I had to run bleachers for making a bad pass before.

Long gone are the days of coaches abusing their positions and hurting kids with their "discipline." When parents or fans start to question what goes on at practice things start going bad. Trust the coaches to do their job. You start putting limits on what goes on in practice and you end up with an angry coach and soft players.

 

This is why I'm totally for CLOSED practices. I think parents have no place in practice. Also, during my tryouts the kids know what it is going to be like during the season because half the tryout is conditioning. And no I don't have them dribble a basketball with the conditioning. They do that in the other half of practice. Running builds stamina and mental toughness. Practices should always be harder than games.