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JCPS staggered school start times

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JCPS problem in a nutshell:

 

48 percent of its enrollment does NOT attend the school closest to the student YET JCPS is on the hook (time wise, staff wise, expense wise, mileage wise) to get kid to chosen school in a timely fashion (can't compare to a workplace like Amazon warehouse, in which people leave at different times and provide own transportation).

Hardin is not small. Top 10 in KY in both enrollment and size.

 

If you choose to "open enroll" in a school that's NOT closest to you, you CAN go there BUT no bus for you.

Lots of KY districts operate under this principle.

Bigger metro districts nationally do too (or use subway in NYC or EL in Chicago).

 

And obviously all the JCPS athletes found ways to still get to practice and games without the morning school bus.

 

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  • This.  I was talking to my wife about this exactly point. I'm all for people being able to choose what school they go to, as long as there is room. But the district shouldn't be responsible for b

  • NateInSports
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    JCPS problem in a nutshell:   48 percent of its enrollment does NOT attend the school closest to the student YET JCPS is on the hook (time wise, staff wise, expense wise, mileage wise) to ge

  • sportsfan41
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    Hard to really place the blame on anyone.  If you can't get people to do the job, this stuff happens.  

9 hours ago, NateInSports said:

JCPS problem in a nutshell:

 

48 percent of its enrollment does NOT attend the school closest to the student YET JCPS is on the hook (time wise, staff wise, expense wise, mileage wise) to get kid to chosen school in a timely fashion (can't compare to a workplace like Amazon warehouse, in which people leave at different times and provide own transportation).

Hardin is not small. Top 10 in KY in both enrollment and size.

 

If you choose to "open enroll" in a school that's NOT closest to you, you CAN go there BUT no bus for you.

Lots of KY districts operate under this principle.

Bigger metro districts nationally do too (or use subway in NYC or EL in Chicago).

 

And obviously all the JCPS athletes found ways to still get to practice and games without the morning school bus.

 

This. 

I was talking to my wife about this exactly point. I'm all for people being able to choose what school they go to, as long as there is room. But the district shouldn't be responsible for bussing you 30 miles across town when you have a school three blocks from your house. 

3 hours ago, TheDeuce said:

This. 

I was talking to my wife about this exactly point. I'm all for people being able to choose what school they go to, as long as there is room. But the district shouldn't be responsible for bussing you 30 miles across town when you have a school three blocks from your house. 

I'm surprised this is a thing.  It should've been one of the first changes made when addressing the bus route issues.

4 minutes ago, sportsfan41 said:

I'm surprised this is a thing.  It should've been one of the first changes made when addressing the bus route issues.

I agree. Seems like an obvious fix to the exact problem they are having. Surely there is some reason they can't/haven't done this. 

18 hours ago, TheDeuce said:

I agree. Seems like an obvious fix to the exact problem they are having. Surely there is some reason they can't/haven't done this. 

From what I've read, socioeconomic factors are at play with this because of the location of magnet schools and other programs.  If the district ceased providing bus service outside of neighborhood schools, then students from lower socioeconomic backgrounds would not be able to attend some of those places.  I think this is why the superintendent there has talked about only doing bus service for free & reduced lunch students outside of a given area.

The fix for that would require JCPS to rearrange how it puts together its location of schools to make them more equitable between different parts of Louisville but I think that's way too much of a logistical challenge going forward as you would need a neighborhood magnet school and other programs in each area of the city.

1 hour ago, DanvilleFan said:

From what I've read, socioeconomic factors are at play with this because of the location of magnet schools and other programs.  If the district ceased providing bus service outside of neighborhood schools, then students from lower socioeconomic backgrounds would not be able to attend some of those places.  I think this is why the superintendent there has talked about only doing bus service for free & reduced lunch students outside of a given area.

The fix for that would require JCPS to rearrange how it puts together its location of schools to make them more equitable between different parts of Louisville but I think that's way too much of a logistical challenge going forward as you would need a neighborhood magnet school and other programs in each area of the city.

You’re exactly right. That is the biggest issue, but I think it could be accomplished. JCPS has known this is an issue for a long time. 

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These same people's kids chant "Daddy's money" at St. X games and I assume do it at Trinity games as well. Funny thing, is I don't hear resides schools chant that at St. X games. A lot of rich people send their kids to traditional and no resides schools like Manual because don't want to pay tuition and try get same private school environment for free. Turn these into resides schools and some would be pulling their kids from these schools and sending them to private or move out of Jefferson County.

I just read an article where the author suggested closing magnet schools in Louisville, and make all schools public, which to me sounds like a bad idea.  I am curious how many disadvantaged kids get into the magnet schools.  My thinking is that parents who choose to send their kids to schools outside their neighborhoods should be responsible for transporting them.  Would that hurt disadvantaged kids from attending?  I know that the problem is more complex than that, but it seems like a good place to start. Shutting down/changing successful schools seems stupid IMO.

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1 hour ago, Beechwoodfan said:

I just read an article where the author suggested closing magnet schools in Louisville, and make all schools public, which to me sounds like a bad idea.  I am curious how many disadvantaged kids get into the magnet schools.  My thinking is that parents who choose to send their kids to schools outside their neighborhoods should be responsible for transporting them.  Would that hurt disadvantaged kids from attending?  I know that the problem is more complex than that, but it seems like a good place to start. Shutting down/changing successful schools seems stupid IMO.

Numbers I saw for economically disadvantaged students. Manual had the least at 23%. Shawnee had the most at 85%. It's very complex problems and I'm not sure can be fixed with how segregated Louisville is geographically from disadvantaged and advantaged.

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