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8th Region Week 10 Review

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I understand what you’re saying, but my one recommendation for the 31st would be to only require 1 district-seeding game against each team. With 5 other teams in the district and having to play them twice, you’re looking at 10 games a year. 

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    That was quite the windy rant - and wrongheaded. I need to go out and touch some grass.  Someone was good enough to point out that there are other options. I am, despite what I posted, not an exp

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1 hour ago, Runcible Owl said:

I read some comments, and my eyes roll back so far in my head, I think I've entered another dimension.

I'm amazed at the number of people who want to rearrange the furniture in someone else's house. Balanced/even numbers of teams in Districts within a Region, or an even number of teams from Region to Region has never, ever, been "a thing."

There are more than a few three team districts in the state. Start filling in the nooks and crannies, starting out west, and you'll have teams in the 5th playing games in the Central Time Zone and some long, late drives home.

If you're in another Region and you're in a play-in District game, you've earned that spot. Is anybody really going to feel better if Trimble County goes back to the 29th and loses it's first post season game to an Oldham team by 50, or has a Benji hung on them? 

Coach Simpson just reached the 500 win milestone at South Oldham. If Trimble wasn't locked into mandated games, he'd have 27 fewer - not going to make it into the "Record Book." Let that sink in.

What if someone were to suggest moving Scott County and Great Crossing into the 10th? Trinity Christian is in Fayette County, a couple of miles from Tates Creek - they're playing in the 12th. Balance the 11th to 10th right?

Some people lost their minds when Woodford was able to move to the 8th after Douglass opened. Did anybody raise a peep when Estill got out of the 11th?

Is there some competitive balance rule that insists that all areas of the state be exactly the same? No. The KHSAA approved Jenkins moving back to the 14th, leaving the 15th with 14 teams. Who should we "make" move there?

The KHSAA has made it clear that 16 Region sports will have the same makeup not just for basketball, but also for - volleyball, soccer, baseball, and softball. I wonder how many admins and coaches are going to be in favor of a massive overhaul?

Someone on this board has volunteered to show the folks in Lexington how to do it. I eagerly await that draft proposal being presented on BGP.

✓ In this one case, it's just one District out of 64. It's just Trimble County. How important is this?

I have a feeling this is a dig at me for a post on another thread. I can’t speak for everyone, but I think what upsets most people about the alignment is how arbitrary it is. 3 different Kenton County schools in 3 different regions. Woodford County moving to the 8th when their superintendent I believe was on the board. I could go on but I won’t. I did say I would do the realignment for them lol I do have a rough draft of Regions 8-11 that I will post since I’m a 9th region guy. I realize that it’s never going to be perfect, but I think we need to do everything we can to eliminate 3 team districts in basketball. I realize in other sports it’s inevitable but that’s neither here nor there.

8th Region
District 29

Oldham County, South Oldham, North Oldham, Trimble County, Carroll County

District 30

Henry County, Eminence, Collins, Shelby County, Spencer County

District 31

Frankfort, Frankfort Christian, Franklin County, Western Hills

District 32

Gallatin County, Owen County, Grant County, Williamstown

9th Region
District 33

Walton Verona, Simon Kenton, Cooper, Ryle

District 34 

Conner, Heritage, Boone County, Saint Henry, Lloyd

District 35

Dixie, Ludlow, Villa Madonna, Beechwood, Covington Catholic

District 36

Covington Latin, Holmes, Holy Cross, Scott, Calvary Christian

10th Region
District 37

Newport, NCC, Dayton, Bellevue, Highlands

District 38

Bishop Brossart, Campbell County, Pendleton County, Augusta

District 39

Bracken County, St Patrick, Mason County, Robertson County, Fleming County(Montgomery County moves to 16th in Flemings place)

District 40

Nicholas County, Harrison County, Bourbon County, Paris

11th Region
District 41

Woodford County, Anderson County, Scott County, Great Crossing

District 42

Frederick Douglass, Henry Clay, Bryan Station, Sayre, Trinity Christian

District 43

stays as is

District 44

George Rogers Clark, Madison Central, Madison Southern, Model, Berea 

1 hour ago, LCDAWGS19 said:

Apparently important enough for you to write a novel about it. 

 

1 hour ago, Polar Bearcat said:

That was a heck of a rant there “Owl.”  My answer would be how would you like someone to come into your house and rearrange your furniture for you without asking?  The 30th district was already tough then out of the blue Woodford is moved to the 8th and into the 30th with no other district in the 8th affected.  

 

58 minutes ago, Adrian Woj Burner said:

I understand what you’re saying, but my one recommendation for the 31st would be to only require 1 district-seeding game against each team. With 5 other teams in the district and having to play them twice, you’re looking at 10 games a year. 

 

32 minutes ago, AirYardGo said:

I have a feeling this is a dig at me for a post on another thread. I can’t speak for everyone, but I think what upsets most people about the alignment is how arbitrary it is. 3 different Kenton County schools in 3 different regions. Woodford County moving to the 8th when their superintendent I believe was on the board. I could go on but I won’t. I did say I would do the realignment for them lol I do have a rough draft of Regions 8-11 that I will post since I’m a 9th region guy. I realize that it’s never going to be perfect, but I think we need to do everything we can to eliminate 3 team districts in basketball. I realize in other sports it’s inevitable but that’s neither here nor there.

8th Region
District 29

Oldham County, South Oldham, North Oldham, Trimble County, Carroll County

District 30

Henry County, Eminence, Collins, Shelby County, Spencer County

District 31

Frankfort, Frankfort Christian, Franklin County, Western Hills

District 32

Gallatin County, Owen County, Grant County, Williamstown

9th Region
District 33

Walton Verona, Simon Kenton, Cooper, Ryle

District 34 

Conner, Heritage, Boone County, Saint Henry, Lloyd

District 35

Dixie, Ludlow, Villa Madonna, Beechwood, Covington Catholic

District 36

Covington Latin, Holmes, Holy Cross, Scott, Calvary Christian

10th Region
District 37

Newport, NCC, Dayton, Bellevue, Highlands

District 38

Bishop Brossart, Campbell County, Pendleton County, Augusta

District 39

Bracken County, St Patrick, Mason County, Robertson County, Fleming County(Montgomery County moves to 16th in Flemings place)

District 40

Nicholas County, Harrison County, Bourbon County, Paris

11th Region
District 41

Woodford County, Anderson County, Scott County, Great Crossing

District 42

Frederick Douglass, Henry Clay, Bryan Station, Sayre, Trinity Christian

District 43

stays as is

District 44

George Rogers Clark, Madison Central, Madison Southern, Model, Berea 

32 minutes ago, AirYardGo said:

 

That was quite the windy rant - and wrongheaded. I need to go out and touch some grass. 

Someone was good enough to point out that there are other options. I am, despite what I posted, not an expert on these issues, and everything said after lacked fairness and a generosity of spirit. 

Everyone has made valid points. There are many stakeholders, some as passionate about their teams and areas as I am. I respect that, and admit to, for what it's worth, being a closet Trimble County fan. 

 @AirYardGo great job on reworking Regions 8 through 11. You gave that a lot of thought. Thank you for sharing it.

1 hour ago, Adrian Woj Burner said:

I understand what you’re saying, but my one recommendation for the 31st would be to only require 1 district-seeding game against each team. With 5 other teams in the district and having to play them twice, you’re looking at 10 games a year. 

Yes, a lot of bad games.

11 minutes ago, Colonel-Rebel Fan said:

Yes, a lot of bad games.

It’s not like there’s a D1 player to dominate the 31st every season. Just the last 10-15 or so…

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37 minutes ago, SnottieDrippen said:

It’s not like there’s a D1 player to dominate the 31st every season. Just the last 10-15 or so…

Who was the D1 player from 2016-2020?

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51 minutes ago, Colonel-Rebel Fan said:

Yes, a lot of bad games.

Been a 2-headed beast for years…. Gallatin County, and a mixture of Owen and Henry County throughout the last 10-20 years… I have a lot of stats coming out hopefully either tonight or tomorrow.

16 minutes ago, Adrian Woj Burner said:

Who was the D1 player from 2016-2020?

Teagan obviously. Just didn’t have the offers lol. Now, if you had asked who was dominating the district you woulda had me.

48 minutes ago, SnottieDrippen said:

It’s not like there’s a D1 player to dominate the 31st every season. Just the last 10-15 or so…

It’s amazing that Owen County has produced 2, Collins has a couple too. Any other school have D1 players from the 8th in the last 10 years?  Woodford will probably have 1 or 2 soon.

Has anybody heard where Hammonds is going?

Simon Kenton played Grant and Walton-Verona at home and are the 1 seed. Grant played Simon Kenton and Walton-Verona at home last and was the 1 seed.                          
I’m sensing a trend here. No way district seeding should be decided by home court advantage in the regular season. All districts should play each other twice.

8 minutes ago, Colonel-Rebel Fan said:

It’s amazing that Owen County has produced 2, Collins has a couple too. Any other school have D1 players from the 8th in the last 10 years?  Woodford will probably have 1 or 2 soon.

Has anybody heard where Hammonds is going?

Dynes at SK, Miles at WV, probably AJ Slaughter from Shelby Co. outside of that. 

2 minutes ago, Mack The Knife said:

Simon Kenton played Grant and Walton-Verona at home and are the 1 seed. Grant played Simon Kenton and Walton-Verona at home last and was the 1 seed.                          
I’m sensing a trend here. No way district seeding should be decided by home court advantage in the regular season. All districts should play each other twice.

Williamstown gets GC and WV at home for the seed next year. Shut up!

4 minutes ago, Mack The Knife said:

Simon Kenton played Grant and Walton-Verona at home and are the 1 seed. Grant played Simon Kenton and Walton-Verona at home last and was the 1 seed.                          
I’m sensing a trend here. No way district seeding should be decided by home court advantage in the regular season. All districts should play each other twice.

That’s a great point.

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26 minutes ago, Mack The Knife said:

Simon Kenton played Grant and Walton-Verona at home and are the 1 seed. Grant played Simon Kenton and Walton-Verona at home last and was the 1 seed.                          
I’m sensing a trend here. No way district seeding should be decided by home court advantage in the regular season. All districts should play each other twice.

I can agree with this, however you need to get rid of a 6-team district if doing so. 

2 hours ago, Runcible Owl said:

 

 

 

That was quite the windy rant - and wrongheaded. I need to go out and touch some grass. 

Someone was good enough to point out that there are other options. I am, despite what I posted, not an expert on these issues, and everything said after lacked fairness and a generosity of spirit. 

Everyone has made valid points. There are many stakeholders, some as passionate about their teams and areas as I am. I respect that, and admit to, for what it's worth, being a closet Trimble County fan. 

 @AirYardGo great job on reworking Regions 8 through 11. You gave that a lot of thought. Thank you for sharing it.

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(I'm wondering if you realize just how countercultural this is, to not only meet criticism with respect, but to admit that perhaps, just perhaps, your own words were not the very epitome of truth?  I think there are laws against doing this on the internet.  But I applaud you nonetheless.)

 

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