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BluegrassPreps Class 6A Football Rankings (10/19) - Discussion

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1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

Perception is not reality. Over the past 10 years in the 6A playoffs against Louisville schools other than Trinity, N. Ky. 6A is 9-8. I am including Male, St. X, Ballard, et. al. N. Ky. has put 4 different schools in the 6A final four during those 10 years. N. Ky. 6A is as good or better than Louisville 6A excepting Trinity.

What were those games?

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  • So if I’m reading this correctly, the 6A rankings hate Jefferson AND Northern Kentucky schools? If Lafayette is top five next week then I’ll know what’s up!

  • Tigerpride94
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    Yes but Fern Creek is ranked and Barren County is not.

  • With this being a board with heavy traffic from NKY, the "NKY gets no respect" argument has always been around, IMO. The truth of it is rarely has NKY had a team that could compete with the big school

11 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

 

What were those games?

I would have to go back and look them up again. Why does it matter what the games were?

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1 minute ago, Voice of Reason said:

I would have to go back and look them up again. Why does it matter what the games were?

It matters because my original point was that NKY rarely produces a team that can compete with the "big schools" in Louisville, meaning Trinity, St. X, Male, Manual. You then made the point that Louisville 6A isn't better than NKY 6A and isolated Trinity as being the lone wolf. 

By a quick search back to 2010, I see NKY 6A teams with playoff wins against Ballard, Eastern, Jeffersontown, Seneca, Southern, Butler and PRP. The only team with a winning record that a NKY team beat was Ballard in 2014. Not one win against the cream of the crop in Louisville, which was my original point. 

20 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

It matters because my original point was that NKY rarely produces a team that can compete with the "big schools" in Louisville, meaning Trinity, St. X, Male, Manual. You then made the point that Louisville 6A isn't better than NKY 6A and isolated Trinity as being the lone wolf. 

By a quick search back to 2010, I see NKY 6A teams with playoff wins against Ballard, Eastern, Jeffersontown, Seneca, Southern, Butler and PRP. The only team with a winning record that a NKY team beat was Ballard in 2014. Not one win against the cream of the crop in Louisville, which was my original point. 

That is a no brainer. If that was your point, no one can argue that. Obviously no one in N. Ky. - or anywhere in the state INCLUDING the rest of Louisville - can compete with those three programs. I wasn't sure if that was your point. I thought perhaps you were including all of Louisville 6A versus N. Ky. 6A.  

To my point about the top ten rankings, I am going to guess Ballard, Butler and PRP were in the top ten rankings in many of those years and the N. Ky. schools that beat them weren't. 

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1 minute ago, Voice of Reason said:

That is a no brainer. If that was your point, no one can argue that. Obviously no one in N. Ky. - or anywhere in the state INCLUDING the rest of Louisville - can compete with those three programs. I wasn't sure if that was your point. I thought perhaps you were including all of Louisville 6A versus N. Ky. 6A.  

No sir. I don't pay enough attention to 6A in NKY to argue which region is better after the top few in each group. 

Twenty or 30 years ago Boone County was the bell cow for NKY large  class football.   IMO there has not been a team from NKY to attain similar status since.

10 minutes ago, tcjkbt said:

Twenty or 30 years ago Boone County was the bell cow for NKY large  class football.   IMO there has not been a team from NKY to attain similar status since.

Seems like yesterday but those days are long gone. Pains me how their program has fallen so much.

On 10/20/2020 at 7:47 AM, Tigerpride94 said:

Yes but Fern Creek is ranked and Barren County is not.

They haven't done anything to be ranked lol they're 1-3.

23 hours ago, gchs_uk9 said:

So if I’m reading this correctly, the 6A rankings hate Jefferson AND Northern Kentucky schools? If Lafayette is top five next week then I’ll know what’s up!

I said non Jefferson County schools get the shade, re-read the post. 

7 hours ago, KyPreps1965 said:

They haven't done anything to be ranked lol they're 1-3.

Strength of schedule. How many teams going to have 2 wins against their schedule? Lost to all ranked opponents.

1 hour ago, Tigerpride94 said:

Strength of schedule. How many teams going to have 2 wins against their schedule? Lost to all ranked opponents.

They weren't competitive in 2 of those 3 losses losing by an average of 30 points a game.

1 hour ago, BillNye said:

They weren't competitive in 2 of those 3 losses losing by an average of 30 points a game.

Not many teams going to be within 30 of Male and Ballard that are below them. The voters have put them where they are so they agree. If Ryle beats SK then maybe they get leap frogged.

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10 hours ago, KyPreps1965 said:

They haven't done anything to be ranked lol they're 1-3.

Who should be ranked ahead of them?

2 hours ago, TheDeuce said:

Who should be ranked ahead of them?

I find it interesting that BluegrassPreps has the same 8 teams that are in the top 8 of CalPreps.com, just in different orders.

BGP 9 and 10 is where it gets whacky. Oldham is 15th in Cal and Fern Creek is 16th.

So I think you could consider 9 Dixie Heights (3-3), 10 Ryle (3-3), 11 Dunbar (3-1), 12 Simon Kenton (3-3), 13 Henderson (3-1), 14 PRP (2-2).

Dixie Heights (2 in Beechwood and Simon Kenton) and Ryle (2 in Dixie Heights and Campbell County) both have better wins than Fern Creek's best/only win.

CalPreps says Dunbar's win over Henry Clay is comparable to Fern Creek beating Bullitt East, but CalPreps says Lexington Christian (Dunbar's loss) is better than Fern Creek's losses to Oldham and Ballard ... when Fern Creek scored a whopping 1 combined TD.

Fern Creek lost by 30 and went up?!

1 hour ago, Nathaniel Bryan said:

I find it interesting that BluegrassPreps has the same 8 teams that are in the top 8 of CalPreps.com, just in different orders.

BGP 9 and 10 is where it gets whacky. Oldham is 15th in Cal and Fern Creek is 16th.

So I think you could consider 9 Dixie Heights (3-3), 10 Ryle (3-3), 11 Dunbar (3-1), 12 Simon Kenton (3-3), 13 Henderson (3-1), 14 PRP (2-2).

Dixie Heights (2 in Beechwood and Simon Kenton) and Ryle (2 in Dixie Heights and Campbell County) both have better wins than Fern Creek's best/only win.

CalPreps says Dunbar's win over Henry Clay is comparable to Fern Creek beating Bullitt East, but CalPreps says Lexington Christian (Dunbar's loss) is better than Fern Creek's losses to Oldham and Ballard ... when Fern Creek scored a whopping 1 combined TD.

Fern Creek lost by 30 and went up?!

Top 8 teams are usually pretty easy as far as selecting to be in top 10. 9 and 10 harder because usually multiple teams can make argument for. All those teams you listed get votes but not enough to make top 10 but you never know maybe next week.

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